2025 Oil Capacity

[UNBROKEN]

My 25 manual says 6.0 quarts. Job 2 build

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Cool…that Ford website says 6.5.
Discrepancies happen….6.5 is closer to correct if you’re going to drive the car hard.

 

[GearHead_1]

Apparently it depends on what you read. I knew I saw this as one time.

No doubt, wouldn't be the first time I've seen double talk. That said, the online owner's manual says 6 with filter in the capacities section. Just to be clear, I'm not arguing one way or the other, just repeating what I've read..

 

[DaHuntah]

An extra half a quart isn't going to get the level no where near the crank! I have been using 6.5 since the first oil change. Even if you're not doing hard launching, just accelerating hard to get on the highway can force the oil to the back of the pan. Better to be safe than sorry.

 

[STeiner]

Yeah we're probably splitting hairs.

But at the end of the day, you can either follow your owner's manual, or what someone tells you on the internet.

 

[UNBROKEN]

Yeah we're probably splitting hairs.

But at the end of the day, you can either follow your owner's manual, or what someone tells you on the internet.

The person that told everyone this on the internet is one of if not the most well respected tuner for this platform. His advice to do so has saved countless people from grenading an engine due to oil starvation and led to the development of a baffled oil pan to completely fix the issue. It’s some of the best advice anyone could be given if they’re going to drive their car hard.
Your snarky comments won’t change that. Go post more pics of your console tray and leave the performance stuff to the grownups.

 

[STeiner]

All opinions aside, I believe Ford still recommends 6 quarts on the 25 model year.

I have the latest vehicle update installed on the 25 which backs that up. And I'm responding to the OP's original question,

 

[GearHead_1]

I have the latest vehicle update installed on the 25 which backs that up. And I'm responding to the OP's original question,

Don't get me wrong. I'm sure that extra pint won't hurt these engines. Will it help? I don't know. Truth is, I'd have to see real world A/B comparison to know.

 

[UNBROKEN]

Don't get me wrong. I'm sure that extra pint won't hurt these engines. Will they help? Truth is I'd have to see real world A/B comparison to know.

The real world A/B comparison can be seen in every single before and after datalog. It couldn’t be any more clear.
You can lead a horse to water…as they say.

 

[GearHead_1]

The real world A/B comparison can be seen in every single before and after datalog. It couldn’t be any more clear.
You can lead a horse to water…as they say.

You work pretty hard to make your point. Pretty sure most got it much earlier in this thread. The data logs show the pressure drop, it doesn't show me what a bearing looks like after 50 hard runs or the life of an engine. That's what I'd want to see from an A/B comparison. Though it stands to reason keeping pressure up would help, I simply don't know how these parts respond. I doubt the average driver would see any real benefit

 

[UNBROKEN]

You work pretty hard to make your point. Pretty sure most got it much earlier in this thread. The data logs show the pressure drop, it doesn't show me what a bearing looks like after 50 hard runs or the life of an engine. That's what I'd want to see from an A/B comparison. Though it stands to reason keeping pressure up would help, I simply don't know how these parts respond. I doubt the average driver would see any real benefit

Which is why I’ve said more than once this is something to be done by someone driving their car hard.

 

[GearHead_1]

Which is why I’ve said more than once this is something to be done by someone driving their car hard.

And that is exactly what you've said. I happen to agree with you, given the right audience, as I run a bit more than 6 quarts myself.

There are a number of posts in this thread that deal with absolutes. I see a lot of this on the forum. That's where the misunderstanding comes in this thread.

As an example of an absolute:

It should be 6.5 quarts, just have them put 6.5 no matter what..

There are others. Maybe it should be 6.4 quarts or 6.7.

We have members who are Dedicated Speed Freaks, we have Ricky Racers, and we have Senior Citizens with a light foot reading this thread.

This advice isn't necessarily in the best interest of Light Foot Louie. Will it hurt them? Other than a few dollars over the life of their vehicle, no.

The speed freak may want to follow the recommendation of the flavor of the week Tuner. The old man may want to follow Ford's recommendation. Ricky Racer... well.. you can sell him anything. One size doesn't fit all.

What works for one owner may be of no benefit to the average owner driving these little bullets. We have all types of owners on this forum.

In reading this thread, there are posts that leave the feeling someone is an idiot not to run this or that, and that simply isn't the case. There are so many factors that go into declaring, "this is the best or this is right", most issues are subjective. Of course we all know there is only one best engine oil, right?

This thread didn't start as hey what's the best oil capacity for those that are tuned running their vehicles hard, It's a stretch to assume that someone only comes to this forum if they fall into that category. Having said all that, if the document you posted is accurate, everything else I've written is a moot point. I've said too much in this thread, I'll bow out.

 

[UGADawg96]

Whether 6qt or 6.25qt or 6.5qt, etc., for those that state the engine requires more than 6qt when running hard, where to you expect to see the oil level when cold after sitting overnight 8+ hrs?

 

[Caster]

Whether 6qt or 6.25qt or 6.5qt, etc., for those that state the engine requires more than 6qt when running hard, where to you expect to see the oil level when cold after sitting overnight 8+ hrs?

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This dead horse has been re-kicked to death again. Maybe it's time you let it go.. add however much or however little F%$king oil you want and give it a rest already.

 

[WaferTech]

Whether 6qt or 6.25qt or 6.5qt, etc., for those that state the engine requires more than 6qt when running hard, where to you expect to see the oil level when cold after sitting overnight 8+ hrs?

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Interesting, manual says the 3 is the max fill level but it goes to 1(Normal) when I just add 6qt, never thought about that. Starts up a lot smoother at 2.

 

[UGADawg96]

This dead horse has been re-kicked to death again. Maybe it's time you let it go.. add however much or however little F%$king oil you want and give it a rest already.

Not sure why you are so angry. I am trying to understand where it is recommended to dial it in if between the hash and upper dot is not what is being recommended or is that what is being recommended. The last time I changed the oil, even after letting it drain for a while, when adding 6qt it was near the 4, which seemed too much. It has happened two times in a row now. I've never had a vehicle, including other Fords in the last thirty years, that the fill didn't match the stick at the top of the hash area. Since folks are saying it should be slightly overfilled, I am looking for a reference spot on the stick so it can be dialed in after sitting overnight, which is how I've measured oil for the last thirty years on over a dozen vehicles. It is a serious and sincere question and I'm sorry it is so upsetting for you.

 

[Fmoser]

Whether 6qt or 6.25qt or 6.5qt, etc., for those that state the engine requires more than 6qt when running hard, where to you expect to see the oil level when cold after sitting overnight 8+ hrs?

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Mine is at 3 and the dealer said they add about 6.5 quarts.

 

[Caster]

Not sure why you are so angry. I am trying to understand where it is recommended to dial it in if between the hash and upper dot is not what is being recommended or is that what is being recommended. The last time I changed the oil, even after letting it drain for a while, when adding 6qt it was near the 4, which seemed too much. It has happened two times in a row now. I've never had a vehicle, including other Fords in the last thirty years, that the fill didn't match the stick at the top of the hash area. Since folks are saying it should be slightly overfilled, I am looking for a reference spot on the stick so it can be dialed in after sitting overnight, which is how I've measured oil for the last thirty years on over a dozen vehicles. It is a serious and sincere question and I'm sorry it is so upsetting for you.

Okay, now I feel bad. I apologize for being a big Richard! I add 6.5 quarts and nevel look at the dipstick. I change at every 3,000 miles.