Safety Recall 22S27 Rear Axle Bolt Fractures

[CareerFiremanGuy]

According to the complaint below on the NHSTA this person claims that there have been "dozens" of people who have experienced this problem and even provides a link to this forum. Hope the NHSTA doesn't search here for evidence to start a recall because they will not find discussions for "dozens" of incidents actually occurring.

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We already know FORD has officially reported more than "dozens", they reported exactly 235 at around the same time that person wrote.

Which mathematically is still an infinitesimally small number compared to the 252,936 vehicles effected (.092% or less than one tenth of a percent).

If just 5% incurred a bolt shear, there would be over 12,000 incidents and we'd see a huge number of people with breaks. But we don't.

 

[Peterfor]

We already know FORD has officially reported more than "dozens", they reported exactly 235 at around the same time that person wrote.

Which mathematically is still an infinitesimally small number compared to the 252,936 vehicles effected (.092% or less than one tenth of a percent).

If just 5% incurred a bolt shear, there would be over 12,000 incidents and we'd see a huge number of people with breaks. But we don't.

I was not trying to get into math which my skills are lacking, I was trying to show that someone referenced this forum to back up actual instances for data to the NHSTA. If we really have Government employees pursuing data to enforce a recall, they will not find it here. All I was trying to do is this point out.

 

[GearHead_1]

You got that right.

 

[CareerFiremanGuy]

I was not trying to get into math which my skills are lacking, I was trying to show that someone referenced this forum to back up actual instances for data to the NHSTA. If we really have Government employees pursuing data to enforce a recall, they will not find it here. All I was trying to do is this point out.

I'm no mathematician either, but honestly, we're just talking about the utilization of basic computational skills here. And I do not think governmental agencies would use any form of social media platform as their basis for statistical data. It will have to either come from FORD's own documented list of actual warranty repairs made, or from a class action suit by tens of thousands of individual owners reporting said problem. And from either of those two sources, the data just isn't there to support the claim made by some of an across the board model item failure. That's all I was trying to point out.

 

[bluesnake01]

Ford sold somewhere around 40k STs since '20. There are 5600 members on this site, many of who don't even own an ST, probably 3K who have maybe posted here a couple of times and aren't even slightly active. And still, CFG (you know who I'm talking about) still thinks his polls are statistically significant...they are not. He's also under the impression that the few hundred people who are actually active on this site somehow also signifies something significant since "we're not seeing continuous reports of breaks....".

He's neither funny nor informative. Although, he did have one good post dealing with the ST versus the competition. It's taken me 2 1/2 years to get to the 1000 post club, and I'd like to think I've added some good content to the site. He's over 800 in four months, meaning he'll pass @UNBROKEN by next June! Most likely with 3 vs 4 bolt posts.

Lets not forget the Platinum and KR owners as well which im sure 90% of em are not in the forums

There's a dude on a ton of Explorer ST youtube videos with a church fireman user name or some crap like that. Wonder if it's the same person. He's always arguing with people in the YT comments. I think he's also a Stinger GT owner or was LOL

 

[jefferylay]

Anyone else dealing with / waiting for a rear diff cover like myself?

T+ 6 weeks now and no updates from Ford ... simply no ETA / backorder.

 

[Rick]

There's a dude on a ton of Explorer ST youtube videos with a church fireman user name or some crap like that. Wonder if it's the same person. He's always arguing with people in the YT comments. I think he's also a Stinger GT owner or was LOL[/QUOTE]

 

[CareerFiremanGuy]

Six weeks is unacceptable.

Long ago, I had a new car with a blown engine that was repaired by the dealer in 4 weeks.

 

[marksst]

Anyone else dealing with / waiting for a rear diff cover like myself?

T+ 6 weeks now and no updates from Ford ... simply no ETA / backorder.

Cover? I took mine in because of the rear diff clicking when accelerating/decelerating and clicking when switching between drive/reverse while sitting with brake applied. It just started at 23k miles. Dealer applied recall, emergency brake (which I strongly dislike) and 'ordered parts to fix'. They didn't elaborate on the parts ordered, so I'm just laying low to see how this plays out. It's been three weeks, I will wait several more, then follow-up with dealer.

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[CareerFiremanGuy]

... Dealer applied recall, emergency brake (which I strongly dislike) and 'ordered parts to fix'. They didn't elaborate on the parts ordered, so I'm just laying low to see how this plays out. It's been three weeks, I will wait several more, then follow-up with dealer.

I think all of us here would really like to see a list of those parts ...

 

[marksst]

I think all of us here would really like to see a list of those parts ...

Me too! Stay tuned...

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[jefferylay]

Cover? I took mine in because of the rear diff clicking when accelerating/decelerating and clicking when switching between drive/reverse while sitting with brake applied. It just started at 23k miles. Dealer applied recall, emergency brake (which I strongly dislike) and 'ordered parts to fix'. They didn't elaborate on the parts ordered, so I'm just laying low to see how this plays out. It's been three weeks, I will wait several more, then follow-up with dealer.

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I'll try to get a parts list. If you look at the rear diff area under the car where the fractured bolts are appearing, you'll see the "cover" so they tell me. I'm not car smart (flew jets, couldn't fix 'em to save my life). But it's that "cover" or casing / cover that the bolts are holding in place. It's supposed part of the recall parts for this fix. All I know is I'm now approaching 6 weeks without my wheels. Sooooo aggravating.

 

[jefferylay]

This is the latest on my car which has been at the dealer since august over this and is undrivable.

“Happy Monday!!! Or something like that...lol. Yes and no. So still hasn't shipped yet. Parts manager looked into it again and they actually had to branch off to an alternate supplier for these covers. What I do not know right now is why they had to do that. If it was a materials thing or a manpower issue or what. They've found an alternate supplier, but it's still going to be some time... as of 10/7 the alternate supplier will start shipping 200/week. Here's the part you aren't going to like; they won't start shipping those 200/week until 11/7 for a total of 4k pieces.”

If Ford can continue to make new Explorers to sell for a profit then it can shut down the line and send those to those of us who paid for / own these cars already. This is unacceptable sticking it to existing customers.

This needs to change. Anyone have a contact to start a lemon law action? Thanks in advance.

 

[Dale5403]

This is the latest on my car which has been at the dealer since august over this and is undrivable.

“Happy Monday!!! Or something like that...lol. Yes and no. So still hasn't shipped yet. Parts manager looked into it again and they actually had to branch off to an alternate supplier for these covers. What I do not know right now is why they had to do that. If it was a materials thing or a manpower issue or what. They've found an alternate supplier, but it's still going to be some time... as of 10/7 the alternate supplier will start shipping 200/week. Here's the part you aren't going to like; they won't start shipping those 200/week until 11/7 for a total of 4k pieces.”

If Ford can continue to make new Explorers to sell for a profit then it can shut down the line and send those to those of us who paid for / own these cars already. This is unacceptable sticking it to existing customers.

This needs to change. Anyone have a contact to start a lemon law action? Thanks in advance.

Here is link to the Colorado lemon law. It looks like yours will qualify due to the time it has been out of service. They do recommend contacting an attorney for it. Good luck with it. I would want to get out from under it also. Once repaired the way the warranty for this repair reads it sounds like you have none on this part any more. Keep us posted.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...202440_1.pdf&usg=AOvVaw2wlpPzXeYaFpZ4LtGV0WIl

 

[CareerFiremanGuy]

This is insane, it's like we're living in a 3rd world country.

Oh wait, for two years now we have been. Hope you get your parts ASAP.

 

[jefferylay]

Cover? I took mine in because of the rear diff clicking when accelerating/decelerating and clicking when switching between drive/reverse while sitting with brake applied. It just started at 23k miles. Dealer applied recall, emergency brake (which I strongly dislike) and 'ordered parts to fix'. They didn't elaborate on the parts ordered, so I'm just laying low to see how this plays out. It's been three weeks, I will wait several more, then follow-up with dealer.

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Any update on your ride / parts?

 

[jefferylay]

Update part# L1MZ*4033*C is one we can’t get.

 

[CareerFiremanGuy]

Seems these days people would have a better chance of getting spare parts for the Hubble Space Telescope than a FORD part ...

 

[FORZDA3]

It seems this latest rev part “C” fits all Explorers/Aviators 2020+ now. Does it have one or two mount holes?

AXLE COVER. COVER - REAR AXLE HOUSING. Rear Cover.

Part Number: L1MZ4033C
Supersession(s): L1MZ-4033-C; L1MZ4033A

Included with: Differential.
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[jefferylay]

I think all of us here would really like to see a list of those parts ...

It seems this latest rev part “C” fits all Explorers/Aviators 2020+ now. Does it have one or two mount holes?

AXLE COVER. COVER - REAR AXLE HOUSING. Rear Cover.

Part Number: L1MZ4033C
Supersession(s): L1MZ-4033-C; L1MZ4033A

Included with: Differential. ​

Fits Explorer (2020 - 2022)​

​

Explorer. Police Interceptor Utility. ​

Ships from Lakeland, FL​

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• DIAGRAMS AND KITS​
  
  
• WHAT THIS FITS​
  
  
• PRODUCT TYPES​
  
  
• SERVICES​
  
  

Clicking these links will change the year of your vehicle selection​

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Ford Explorer 2.3L EcoBoost A/T AWD Timberline Sport Utility 2021, 2022​

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Mine is a 2020 so I'm a 4 bolt guy.