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3" Thermal vs. AWE?

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AWE Definitely has better looking tips and sounds a bit softer/deeper tone at startup. They are very similar to my ears but AWE looks sick with the larger tips.
Who wants softer - maybe GrandMa’ not me …


The first aftermarket exhaust systems for the Ford Explorer ST were released shortly after the vehicle's debut, with
Thermal R&D and Borla being among the very first to offer cat-back options. Borla slightly behind Thermal on debut dates. Effectively making Thermal the “King” of ST exhausts
 

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Who wants softer - maybe GrandMa’ not me …


The first aftermarket exhaust systems for the Ford Explorer ST were released shortly after the vehicle's debut, with
Thermal R&D and Borla being among the very first to offer cat-back options. Borla slightly behind Thermal on debut dates. Effectively making Thermal the “King” of ST exhausts
Softer as in not so raspy but to each his own. Not trying to sway you one way or the other because you clearly have your mind made up just saying some people like one and others like the other.
 

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AWE Definitely has better looking tips and sounds a bit softer/deeper tone at startup. They are very similar to my ears but AWE looks sick with the larger tips.
Tips are easy…this is quad 4.5’s on a Thermal 3” IMG_8396.jpeg
 

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Who wants softer - maybe GrandMa’ not me …


The first aftermarket exhaust systems for the Ford Explorer ST were released shortly after the vehicle's debut, with
Thermal R&D and Borla being among the very first to offer cat-back options. Borla slightly behind Thermal on debut dates. Effectively making Thermal the “King” of ST exhausts
Don’t ask google shit it doesn’t know. Borla was way before Thermal. I had my own 3” system completed in Nov 2020, well before Thermal and well after Borla came to market. Borla being the only option is why I built my own 3” back then. The Thermal 3” came almost 2 years later.
 

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Who cares really
Don’t ask google shit it doesn’t know. Borla was way before Thermal. I had my own 3” system completed in Nov 2020, well before Thermal and well after Borla came to market. Borla being the only option is why I built my own 3” back then. The Thermal 3” came almost 2 years later.
If you say so, seems to be important, so whatever you say
 

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If you say so, seems to be important, so whatever you say
It’s not “whatever you say”…it’s how it happened. I’ve been building these since they came out…back when we were just hoping the aftermarket would start supporting them. Thermal was not before Borla…that’s just a fact.
 

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Don’t ask google shit it doesn’t know. Borla was way before Thermal. I had my own 3” system completed in Nov 2020, well before Thermal and well after Borla came to market. Borla being the only option is why I built my own 3” back then. The Thermal 3” came almost 2 years later.
If you say so, seems to be important, so whatever you say
It’s not “whatever you say”…it’s how it happened. I’ve been building these since they came out…back when we were just hoping the aftermarket would start supporting them. Thermal was not before Borla…that’s just a fact.
Sure thing, not what I was told - but we can go with what you say, thanks for the input
 

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If you say so, seems to be important, so whatever you say


Sure thing, not what I was told - but we can go with what you say, thanks for the input
You can make all the snarky posts you want, doesn’t change anything. I know we live in a world where nobody admits, they are wrong, but you’re wrong. You could just say “OK I messed up“
 

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You can make all the snarky posts you want, doesn’t change anything. I know we live in a world where nobody admits, they are wrong, but you’re wrong. You could just say “OK I messed up“
“Accusations of snarky posts” all I’m doing is agreeing with you to calm you down and stating that it’s not what I was told. This seems rather personal for you, why is that?
 

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FYI for those that want to know - AWE started in the 90's in a broken down 100 square foot garage in the Philadelphia area - working on mostly Volkswagons. Then Tom Sager the owner apparently got the idea to start manufacturing a drone free type exhaust systems like Borla for American muscle cars because he was watching Borla's success and wanted a piece of the pie.

The name AWE stands for - A ir and W ater E nterprises because they touted themselves as working on air and water cooled engines. Kudo's to Tom and AWE for taking something so small and making it into what it is today, still small - but successful. Issue is when you copy you basically end up with the same product your copying with maybe some subtle but inconspicuous differences. The only attraction would be a lower price point, but in the case of AWE the price is typically more than their competitors, and they do not offer any Military or First Responder discounts for those that served and serve.
 

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Softer as in not so raspy but to each his own. Not trying to sway you one way or the other because you clearly have your mind made up just saying some people like one and others like the other.
Correct just takes the edge off a little bit but mine have ultra quiet resonators that bring it down pretty close. the AWE open up more
Tips are easy…this is quad 4.5’s on a Thermal 3” View attachment 32664
ok so i need a link then. those look sick!
 

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Correct just takes the edge off a little bit but mine have ultra quiet resonators that bring it down pretty close. the AWE open up more

ok so i need a link then. those look sick!
Found them on EBay….definitely from China. lol
 

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did you buy em as a "Y" dual tip or individuals and modify the thermal Y
They’re a Y just like the Thermal with the same 3” inlet. My guess is every “brand” on eBay is from the same source.
 

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