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2025 Tuning

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Looking to get back into a new ST, I wanted to see what has changed in terms of how you tune them? Can I use an SCT tuner still?
 

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Looking to get back into a new ST, I wanted to see what has changed in terms of how you tune them? Can I use an SCT tuner still?
Yes but it has to be the BDX. Not the best device to be using though, HPTuners is worlds bettter
 

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Be advised, as of today, Cobb doesn't tune 2025+ ST's
 

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Good to know - I had used the GearHead AO tube previously. If I get the SCT BDX can I still use that tune? For the price I think it’s probably the best. But could be wrong.

If double the price I can go ZFG, he does have 2025+ listed on his site. But curious the other options
 

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How does Livernois compare to ZFG. Says +100hp & 115tq… ZFG about the same but double the price.

Is ZFG worth double the price if money is a concern? I could use that extra money towards an intercooler or intake if it’s about the same..
 

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Good to know - I had used the GearHead AO tube previously. If I get the SCT BDX can I still use that tune? For the price I think it’s probably the best. But could be wrong.

If double the price I can go ZFG, he does have 2025+ listed on his site. But curious the other options
You can’t use the same tune, no.
 

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How does Livernois compare to ZFG. Says +100hp & 115tq… ZFG about the same but double the price.

Is ZFG worth double the price if money is a concern? I could use that extra money towards an intercooler or intake if it’s about the same..
You keep saying ZFG is double the price but I don’t see that anywhere. It’s only about $280 bucks more and you get a better tuning device.
 

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Have used Lund, PBD, Livernois and ZFG on different Fords. Been really impressed with ZFG.
 

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You keep saying ZFG is double the price but I don’t see that anywhere. It’s only about $280 bucks more and you get a better tuning device.
Livernois is $699 & ZFG showed close to $1200
You keep saying ZFG is double the price but I don’t see that anywhere. It’s only about $280 bucks more and you get a better tuning device.
Well ones $500 & ones $979. That’s basically double?
 

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Livernois is $699 & ZFG showed close to $1200


Well ones $500 & ones $979. That’s basically double?
The Livernois is $700 and the basic ZFG tune that is comparable to Livernois is $970. The $1200 option is the DMS option, which is something I’d recommend but it is on a different level then Livernois.
 

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The Livernois is $700 and the basic ZFG tune that is comparable to Livernois is $970. The $1200 option is the DMS option, which is something I’d recommend but it is on a different level then Livernois.
Ah I see, you are correct I was looking at the 2021-2024. I do see now that the Livernois 2025 tune is $100 more @ $699.

So I guess is ZFG worth the extra $300?

Or is there a place to get a tuning device cheaper for the ZFG tune?
 

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Ah I see, you are correct I was looking at the 2021-2024. I do see now that the Livernois 2025 tune is $100 more @ $699.

So I guess is ZFG worth the extra $300?

Or is there a place to get a tuning device cheaper for the ZFG tune?
For the device alone I say yes. Can’t really find it much cheaper since you have to get credits anyway.
 



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