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Of course, the jury is still out on the "fix", but I am betting that if it is a PCM fix, it'll be something that may not limit hp/torque, as that would just open up another can of worms. If you think of it from a manufacturer's perspective, the best way to handle this midterm would be something...

I did a little spreadsheet on rpm drop in gears- shifting at 6000 2nd gear 3815 3rd gear 4302 4th gear 4939 5th gear 5159 6th gear 5030 7th gear 4706 So, one of us is off on our math

There are about a dozen different conversations going on in this thread! I'm trying to ascertain whether their are indeed big differences between the 3.0 lincoln and the ST, you are looking at 2.7 vs 3.0, unbroken is fielding questions on both, and the original poster thankfully missing! This...

I should have been more specific- the turbos from the 400hp lincoln and st are the same.

I didn't call you either of those things! I just didn't see the point of showing what you did as evidence. So if you were offended, then I apologize. Now on to why the times may not be the same- GPS is only accurate to about 5 meters or worse depending on the signal and many other variables...

I was looking at the Lincoln manuals for the 3.0. They may have changed things for the ST. I did a bunch of research on the 2.7 vs 3.0 (Lincoln), before I bought my ST thinking it was the same, so it's more than possible things have changed. Even now, although they use the lincoln prefix, the...

It does share part numbers for heads and intake. It's definitely different, but not particularly a "clean sheet" design. I think jury is still out on the CGI vs aluminum block. It does have that block skirting which is aluminum, so I suppose one could try a magnet on the block under the heads...

Yep, here's the truth- you're curious whether an @ZFGracing baseline tune is the same as Joe-Bob's tune which is cheaper $. I can definitely see that if you want to save some money you can buy something else. If you thought for a moment, you'd see it will never be an apples-apples comparison...

You're welcome.

And what possible use would this information be?

"i realize this is probably a stupid question, I’m just anxious and want to know what to expect..' I agree, it is a stupid question. That graph is what you can expect.

Here is an example of stock (red) 93 tune (blue) and E50 (green) on AWD dyno. At least in this case about 100hp.

Not a problem.

This might help: https://www.explorerst.org/threads/charge-pipes.2803/post-45783

From post #77 Your timeslip shows 11:17. Draggy shows 11:40. What is it you're trying to prove? If they're off, they're off, but posting up two pieces of evidence that don't even share the same time of day proves nothing.

Use the word "inexpensive" instead of cheap if you're sensitive. If you just want a bit more, you don't need an exhaust or an intercooler either. Just get a tune with your existing tuner and electronics you've already paid for..

Know your goals. If you think you want to add more upgrades later, you're way better off with the ZFG tune and the HP Tuners device in the long term. If you want to go cheap, stay with what you've got.

In terms of bang-for-the-buck, the tune is the best thing you can do. An upgraded intercooler will allow the tune to deliver results more consistently especially during hot weather. I'd do the tune first. Especially since you live in "the cities"!

They weren't the same runs, they have different time of day when recorded. See both.

Timeslip time and draggy time of day (when recorded) are different. So not the same run.