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Can’t you install the software after the fact? I mean what happens once that warranty is up. I’d want everything in my possession certainly by then. I mean I think everything should even from the beginning. I just need the dealer to hit “install” to get the warranty.
I suspect you can, but I haven't done it. When you connect the ProCal to your computer for the first time, it initiates the software download procedure from Ford using a unique voucher code. I would think the software would recognize both the device and the tunes stored on the ProCal. I suppose I could try this on another laptop and see what happens.
 

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Thanks 18Ventura and IBFB for keeping the discussion going and adding worthwhile content.(y)
 

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In order to download the ProCal software and activate the device, you (or someone) needs to create an account with Ford Performance Parts. It looks like having access to this account is really what you want/need. From there, you should be able to download software or updates, even to another computer if necessary.

If you don't have access to the FPP account, you probably have to contact FP for assistance. I assume it must be doable. If you buy a used car with an FP tune already installed, it seems unlikely that FP wouldn't allow you to download the software so you could use the ProCal tool. It's VIN specific and already registered.

Or maybe I'm giving Ford too much credit...
 

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The FP Tune and Stock tune is backup to the FP Server. Just incase you break or lose the tuner.
 

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In before another thanks for worthwhile content comment
 

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Just got the tune install by the Ford Dealership. Cost was $90 but I pre loaded the tune file on the tuner.

Outside Temp is 50F
Intake Temp is 69 F (Nice)
ST (Normal Mode) is making 18 PSI Boost at 3/4 throttle. (Stock is about 14 to 16PSI).

Taking it easy. Waiting on the tranny to relearn.
 

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Just got the tune install by the Ford Dealership. Cost was $90 but I pre loaded the tune file on the tuner.

Outside Temp is 50F
Intake Temp is 69 F (Nice)
ST (Normal Mode) is making 18 PSI Boost at 3/4 throttle. (Stock is about 14 to 16PSI).

Taking it easy. Waiting on the tranny to relearn.
Keep us updated! As far as that cost goes, did you tell the dealer that you were going to preload it? Did that affect the cost? I’m just having a hard time with the one dealer around me that quoted $210.
 

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Just got the tune install by the Ford Dealership. Cost was $90 but I pre loaded the tune file on the tuner.

Outside Temp is 50F
Intake Temp is 69 F (Nice)
ST (Normal Mode) is making 18 PSI Boost at 3/4 throttle. (Stock is about 14 to 16PSI).

Taking it easy. Waiting on the tranny to relearn.
Nice! Dealer install cost for me was $125.
As for boost I saw 18 PSI max (full throttle)with the stock calibration, 20 PSI has been the max (full throttle) with the FP calibration. Are you logging OAR? Curious what others are seeing with 93. I have yet to get OAR to 100 with the FP calibration.
 

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Just got the tune install by the Ford Dealership. Cost was $90 but I pre loaded the tune file on the tuner ... ST (Normal Mode) is making 18 PSI Boost at 3/4 throttle. (Stock is about 14 to 16PSI).
Nice! Dealer install cost for me was $125 ... As for boost I saw 18 PSI max (full throttle)with the stock calibration, 20 PSI has been the max (full throttle) with the FP calibration ...
Excellent job with the data.(y)

Take note forum whiners and malcontents. This is what people need, actual info that's informative and helpful.

Not your worthless juvenile complaining. Lol
 

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Excellent job with the data.(y)

Take note forum whiners and malcontents. This is what people need, actual info that's informative and helpful.

Not your worthless juvenile complaining. Lol
It’s hilarious to see you think you have a single clue about this shit. Fact: you don’t.
 

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It’s hilarious to see you think you have a single clue about this shit. Fact: you don’t.
And he never will have a clue as long as he blocks people like you that have a lot of knowledge about this vehicle.
 

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And he never will have a clue as long as he blocks people like you that have a lot of knowledge about this vehicle.
The fact that he blocked TMac…that’s just stupid. That guy has forgotten more than most of us will even know.
 

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As for the boost comments…they make what they’re told to make at a given time to hit the torque number they’re looking for. It’s just a number and doesn’t mean as much on this car as some people like to think.
 

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The fact that he blocked TMac…that’s just stupid. That guy has forgotten more than most of us will even know.
That's probably the nicest comment I've ever heard in 25 years of being on car forums. Thanks for that! Seriously though, I've forgotten some things, thankfully. Like carburetors, point operated ignitions, horsepower is unimportant cuz torque wins races, headers work because of Venturi effect, an engine needs a little backpressure to run right- etc, etc, etc!
 

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2 day with the tune about 80 miles.
Sport Mode, The tranny does not have the hard 4th and 3rd downshift anymore. (Not sure I like that). Throttle to sensitive now. ST jump when taking off from a stop sign (5% throttle)
Normal Mode feel more like sport mode now. Throttle is much snappier.

I did get to 20 PSI. Not sure if is the cold weather in Houston.
 

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2 day with the tune about 80 miles.
Sport Mode, The tranny does not have the hard 4th and 3rd downshift anymore. (Not sure I like that). Throttle to sensitive now. ST jump when taking off from a stop sign (5% throttle)
Normal Mode feel more like sport mode now. Throttle is much snappier.

I did get to 20 PSI. Not sure if is the cold weather in Houston.
Well it sounds like you got a nice bump in performance. Maybe after putting more miles on it you will like it better. 80 miles is not a lot for things to settle in. Keep us posted.
 

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2 day with the tune about 80 miles.
Sport Mode, The tranny does not have the hard 4th and 3rd downshift anymore. (Not sure I like that). Throttle to sensitive now. ST jump when taking off from a stop sign (5% throttle)
Normal Mode feel more like sport mode now. Throttle is much snappier.

I did get to 20 PSI. Not sure if is the cold weather in Houston.
I believe the reason we are seeing 20psi of boost pressure is because the FP calibration is allowing it to get that high. Regardless of ambient temps the stock calibration will command the wastegate to regulate boost to 18 pounds so in theory a stock ST should never see higher than 18 unless there’s a boost creep situation which I don’t believe is an issue with the ST, certainly not at stock boost levels with stock turbochargers. Does anyone know if wastegate duty cycle has a PID? My GTR has one and I never looked when I set up my datalog PID list.
 

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2 day with the tune about 80 miles.
Sport Mode, The tranny does not have the hard 4th and 3rd downshift anymore. (Not sure I like that). Throttle to sensitive now. ST jump when taking off from a stop sign (5% throttle)
Normal Mode feel more like sport mode now. Throttle is much snappier.

I did get to 20 PSI. Not sure if is the cold weather in Houston.
Good info thanks. Is sport more responsive as well or “jumpier” than before? I say jumpy because I feel sport mode stock just bolts even with minimal gas. I suppose that’s what you mean by the 5% throttle part.

Overall, sounds like it makes the car a bit more fun to drive with smoother transmission shifts.
 

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I believe the reason we are seeing 20psi of boost pressure is because the FP calibration is allowing it to get that high. Regardless of ambient temps the stock calibration will command the wastegate to regulate boost to 18 pounds so in theory a stock ST should never see higher than 18 unless there’s a boost creep situation which I don’t believe is an issue with the ST, certainly not at stock boost levels with stock turbochargers. Does anyone know if wastegate duty cycle has a PID? My GTR has one and I never looked when I set up my datalog PID list.
The ST definitely uses a PID algorithm for wastegate control, and it's not moderated to a specific boost pressure- it's far more complicated than that taking into account octane learning, ethanol content, etc. Because it's using a speed-density system, based on ambient conditions (temperature, barometric pressure) it'll adjust. In effect, it's trying to achieve a certain amount of average cylinder pressure (torque), rather than just relying on duty cycle to achieve a specific boost level.
 

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I believe the reason we are seeing 20psi of boost pressure is because the FP calibration is allowing it to get that high. Regardless of ambient temps the stock calibration will command the wastegate to regulate boost to 18 pounds so in theory a stock ST should never see higher than 18 unless there’s a boost creep situation which I don’t believe is an issue with the ST, certainly not at stock boost levels with stock turbochargers. Does anyone know if wastegate duty cycle has a PID? My GTR has one and I never looked when I set up my datalog PID list.
I would agree that “yes” the FP tune is allowing it to get that high, but there is a caveat to that. It’s totally dependent on a bunch of factors. Usually the peak boost is observed right before a shift. So it’s not “really” seeing that max boost, but for a very brief time. Usually, but I don’t have a FP tune, so making a bit of an assumption based on looking at a lot of eco logs with vacuum WGs

These, like all other eco platforms are torque based. How they hit the desired torque is based on a bunch of factors and inputs. If you boil it down to something super high level that doesn’t tell a bunch of the story, it focuses control around throttle opening, boost and timing. The stock strategy will actually try to leverage timing over boost to a certain extent. As an example, I worked through building my own tune and testing a few methods based on courses I took. I found that if I didn’t increase driver demand, but would allow it to take more timing advance (obviously keeping safeties in place based on inferred octane, KR, etc.), that the car would reduce boost, but increase timing advance and still hit the same desired load/torque. I did three versions with this method and would have to go back and look at logs, but there was a significant decrease in boost, while timing was higher. I tested these at try track and ran within the same tenth.

Sorry for the ramble.

Anyway, yes there is a WGDC channel in HPT and the same PID in SCT. The channel in HPT is set so that the lower the percentage, the more WGDC is being used. Because I have a little elevation where I am, it’s one I pay close attention too as I am always fearful of over spoiling since popping a turbo on my truck.


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