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Any 2022's Autostop Eliminated and/or FORScan'd yet

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I get a lot of satisfaction when I press that button...F-U I wont do what ya tell me.
 

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I get a lot of satisfaction when I press that button...F-U I wont do what ya tell me.
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Me too but only once. :ROFLMAO:
 

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Vote 1 for AutoStart elimination. It hard to argue that the engine simply would not have greater wear with AutoStop then without. The Engine has ZERO oil pressure during start up. How long do you want the motor to run with zero oil pressure. With Autostart I would guess that time is at least 10 fold on each trip. I have read many articles over the years that say during the 1st 360 degress of crank rotation there is very little Hyrdodynamic Lubrication occuring at the main bearings. That cannot be a benefit for longevity. How about starter motor wear? I cannot see anything other than AutoStart being a CAFE standards play.
 

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Ill stick with the factory ASS eliminator, I like being able to control it. If Im sitting at a long light or for a train to pass, Ill flip it back on, but normal driving, its off. I cant see paying 100 bucks extra for something that is already installed, and once again, I control it!
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You do not give up control with the Eliminator. The button still works to turn auto-start on and off.
 

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The people that voted to make this mandatory in internal combustion cars are the same people that have never actually driven a car or know anything about engines, Period! Everything in life revolves about some one or a group making money. If you don't recognize that then lease your car and not worry about longevity of components as of course we live in a disposable society.
 

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Yeah I can see that. So did it fail to start altogether or did it just take too long to start?

also if you angle the steering wheel even the slightest bit, it won’t activate the feature.
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It started as it's supposed to, there is just a delay. When you want to make a hard acceleration from a stop to merge or cross an intersection, you don't any delays.
 

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I don't quite understand the dislike of autostop and I have had two vehicles with it so far.

One gentleman mentioned safety and not being able to go when he wanted to avoid a traffic.

If you ease up on the brake pedal a bit, just enough to roll a smidge, it'll refire and if you don't mash the pedal hard, you can keep the engine going if you need to. Both my Mercedes and this ST I can do it.

I hardly notice the autostop, but I know it's there and have adapted....if I need a quick take off, I ease the brake, let the engine refire and be very soft on the pedal and it stays lit.
 

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Ill stick with the factory ASS eliminator, I like being able to control it. If Im sitting at a long light or for a train to pass, Ill flip it back on, but normal driving, its off. I cant see paying 100 bucks extra for something that is already installed, and once again, I control it!
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The Eliminator actually gives you more control. Auto-start will no longer turn back on by itself with a key cycle. It will only turn on or off when you command it to.
 

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It has been written many times but I still don't think people understand that you can still use the factory setup just as it was designed should you choose but have the option of not having to think about that feature at all if that's your choice.
 

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WorkingMan said:
I get a lot of satisfaction when I press that button...F-U I wont do what ya tell me.
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Rage against the machine ran through my head reading this
 

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It has been written many times but I still don't think people understand that you can still use the factory setup just as it was designed should you choose but have the option of not having to think about that feature at all if that's your choice.
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Correct. If you never touch the button you will never know the Eliminator is there. If you do press the button to turn auto-start off, you can then press the button again to turn it back on.
 

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Using forscan is a viable option if you already have a license and the needed adapter to plug into the obd2 port, and know how to use forscan. But if you don't know how to, you can brick a module or you entire vehicle. Just getting the license and adapter will run you close to 100 bucks anyway, so at that point why take a chance with possible damage to a module, just buy the autostop eliminator.
 

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I Bleed Ford Blue said:
Using forscan is a viable option if you already have a license and the needed adapter to plug into the obd2 port, and know how to use forscan. But if you don't know how to, you can brick a module or you entire vehicle. Just getting the license and adapter will run you close to 100 bucks anyway, so at that point why take a chance with possible damage to a module, just buy the autostop eliminator.
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If that’s all you’re planning on doing with ForScan then yes, just get the AS Eliminator and be done. But if you already use FS and you’re proficient enough with it, do it that way. There’s been a lot of attempts to use FS for this and no one has succeeded until now.
 

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I had my car into the ford dealership. It is a 21, they did some updates to it and now it remembers if I had the button pressed to turn off the auto start stop. This is in normal mode, and my auto stop eliminator module is out of the vehicle… so I may be having that up for sale soon. Don’t know if there is an option to call the ford dealership to do updates…
 

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If that’s all you’re planning on doing with ForScan then yes, just get the AS Eliminator and be done. But if you already use FS and you’re proficient enough with it, do it that way. There’s been a lot of attempts to use FS for this and no one has succeeded until now.
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If I already had FS and was proficient, then I would have gone that route. But I don't and I'm not, so the AS was a more logical choice for me. Also if I had known you could have it turned off via a tune, I would have not bought the AS because I planned on getting it tuned as soon as I possibly could. I installed the AS at the dealer in the new car prep lane while they were getting the paperwork ready, so I never drove it with the AS active. About a month later I bought a set of tunes for it and that is when I found out the AS feature could be turned of via tune.

I remember bricking a motherboard on a computer trying to update the B.I.O.S. back when win95 was still the main OS out there and you had to download the bios update over a dialup modem and load it onto a 3.5" floppy. And back in those days an average desktop PC would cost around 1500 to 2K so you can understand my hesitancy to try using FS on a 56K suv that is my DD
 

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If I already had FS and was proficient, then I would have gone that route. But I don't and I'm not, so the AS was a more logical choice for me. Also if I had known you could have it turned off via a tune, I would have not bought the AS because I planned on getting it tuned as soon as I possibly could. I installed the AS at the dealer in the new car prep lane while they were getting the paperwork ready, so I never drove it with the AS active. About a month later I bought a set of tunes for it and that is when I found out the AS feature could be turned of via tune.

I remember bricking a motherboard on a computer trying to update the B.I.O.S. back when win95 was still the main OS out there and you had to download the bios update over a dialup modem and load it onto a 3.5" floppy. And back in those days an average desktop PC would cost around 1500 to 2K so you can understand my hesitancy to try using FS on a 56K suv that is my DD
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Yep, I understand where you’re coming. Nothing wrong in playing it safe, that’s for sure. The only changes I made with FS is the double honk, fogs w/hi beams, LED’s and fake engine noise.
 

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