Ford Performance Tune

[bluesnake01]

Also, I read in the description that it only preserves the warranty if a Ford technician or Red Sealed Tech or whatever installs it. Do y’all just not care/out of warranty? Or is it just bs. Also, I have bumper to bumper extended warranty up to 100,000 miles, but the warranty for the flash says 3/36000. Past that I’m screwed?

From my understanding, once you are past the 3/36 and into ext warranty and have a failure that can be traced to the tune, they could deny the warranty. FP does not provide any coverage after 3/36. This has been the same with previous FP tunes on different vehicles.

However, just like any other tune, they CANNOT deny your warranty that is NOT tune relatable.

If out of warranty, I would go directly with ZFG as not only will you get the fastest/most out if it, more than likely itll also be easier on the transmission due to the tranny tune and powerband.

One major advantage the FP tune has however, is that it is 100% CARB legal. Here in California, thats a big plus for those that want a lil more power and cannot get another tune

 

[KegsBdry]

From my understanding, once you are past the 3/36 and into ext warranty and have a failure that can be traced to the tune, they could deny the warranty. FP does not provide any coverage after 3/36. This has been the same with previous FP tunes on different vehicles.

However, just like any other tune, they CANNOT deny your warranty that is NOT tune relatable.

If out of warranty, I would go directly with ZFG as not only will you get the fastest/most out if it, more than likely itll also be easier on the transmission due to the tranny tune and powerband.

One major advantage the FP tune has however, is that it is 100% CARB legal. Here in California, thats a big plus for those that want a lil more power and cannot get another tune

So in my case, I should do ZFG and be done with it!?

 

[Dale5403]

For someone that claims to have all of us blocked…he sure does talk about us a lot. My money says he doesn’t have us blocked…because he wouldn’t be able to stand not seeing what’s being said. As far as uninformed…I think the majority of people see who really wears that badge. lol

I think CFM should block every one on this forum. Then he would have nothing to whine about because he would not see any posts. Never have I seen a person on a web forum brag about blocking people except for him.

 

[AtlasBlue2022]

From my understanding, once you are past the 3/36 and into ext warranty and have a failure that can be traced to the tune, they could deny the warranty. FP does not provide any coverage after 3/36. This has been the same with previous FP tunes on different vehicles.

However, just like any other tune, they CANNOT deny your warranty that is NOT tune relatable.

If out of warranty, I would go directly with ZFG as not only will you get the fastest/most out if it, more than likely itll also be easier on the transmission due to the tranny tune and powerband.

One major advantage the FP tune has however, is that it is 100% CARB legal. Here in California, thats a big plus for those that want a lil more power and cannot get another tune

Just a side note though, it’s only CARB legal through 2021 models. 22’s & 23’s aren’t as of now, but hopefully they will be soon.

 

[dolsen]

Lexington, Ky.

Which dealer are you using out there? I am in Louisville, but shop exclusively Pinnacle Ford

 

[CareerFiremanGuy]

Ummm....Sure??

100% absolutely sure!

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... Quoted from the Service Manager: The cost of the software $825. Install is $195 ...

my dealership quoted me $75 to flash it. Just gonna do that. Better Safe than sorry

Crazy installation price disparity between one dealer and another. Should all be the exact same price wherever you go ...

 

[bluesnake01]

So in my case, I should do ZFG and be done with it!?

ZFG gives you the best bang for the money if you're out of the original 3/36 and even then, it can be debatable.

But its your SUV, your money.

 

[CareerFiremanGuy]

The FP tune is deserving of way more attention than it's getting.

My previous comment should not be the last post on this thread about it, so I'm posting again.

We need more intelligent common sense feedback on this tune so people can make a rational informed decision on it.

Anyone?

 

[RandomPilot]

Which dealer are you using out there? I am in Louisville, but shop exclusively Pinnacle Ford

So I talked to them today about scheduling it and they admitted they had no clue what mod I was talking about. Have to get back to me with another quote because the guy in parts has zero clue that FP tune I'm talking about. Argued with me that no such part exists

 

[dolsen]

So I talked to them today about scheduling it and they admitted they had no clue what mod I was talking about. Have to get back to me with another quote because the guy in parts has zero clue that FP tune I'm talking about. Argued with me that no such part exists

You spoke with the service manager at Pinnacle? I only work with their sales since I am in Louisville, but they're one of the best, most aggressively priced dealers I have found. When I bought my 2020 ST from them, it was 9k off MSRP, no negotiations or anything, that was just the price as it sat on the showroom floor. Granted August 2020 was a much different car market than today lol.

They let me buy my 22 F150 Lariat off the lot using x-plan though. This was at the beginning of Sept, arguably the peak of all of these car shenanigans

 

[Blown F-150]

I’ll admit I wasn’t expecting too much. After the FP calibration was loaded I took it easy to for 3 or 4 days to give the ECM time to dial in OAR and transmission adaptive learning to occur. First WOT pull surprised me, it pulled harder than I expected, shifted crisper, and smoother throughout the rev range. See Dragy results, the FP calibration shaved 1/2 second off 0-60 and 1/4 mile, trap speeds up 3 mph. Both runs were with 93 and whipple intercooler. OAR on stock pulls was 100% and about 95% with the FP calibration.

I was bored, so I went to this site to play with the numbers you posted.
https://www.ajdesigner.com/fl_horsepower_elapsed_time/horsepower_elapsed_time.php

Assumptions of 5000lbs curb weight with Driver and DA is not definable

ET 13.44 = 407.1hp
ET 12.90 = 460.4hp

So seems like FP is underestimating the HP, but obviously this is a pretty generic way of calculating the HP. We all know the impact of DA and other factors.

 

[CareerFiremanGuy]

Good to see we have two intelligent people keeping the discussion alive.

Thanks RandomPilot and dolsen!

 

[TMac]

Sorry @Blown F-150- Looks like you have been added to the "ignore" list as well!

 

[st8]

I was bored, so I went to this site to play with the numbers you posted.
https://www.ajdesigner.com/fl_horsepower_elapsed_time/horsepower_elapsed_time.php

Assumptions of 5000lbs curb weight with Driver and DA is not definable

ET 13.44 = 407.1hp
ET 12.90 = 460.4hp

So seems like FP is underestimating the HP, but obviously this is a pretty generic way of calculating the HP. We all know the impact of DA and other factors.

Interesting. Thanks for that info. Every day I come to this thread in hopes something helps me decide what to do lol.

 

[I Bleed Ford Blue]

From my experience, HP can overwrite a ford performance tune. I put a stage 2 power pack on my 17 mustang GT, and after I installed the long tube headers, I had to take to a local shop to get the CEL turned off. HP tuning software was the only one that could access the FP tune to modify for the header install.

Also, if you buy the FP tune, download the file from ford yourself and give a copy to the tech at the dealer on a thumb drive. DO NOT let them download the file. Several people in the mustang world let the dealer download the file and they got screwed by the tech. They either kept the file themselves, and in one instance I heard of the tech deleted the file from the dealer laptop after the install and now there is no way to go back to stock.

 

[st8]

Glad I’m not the only one who thought of that possible situation. Would be very slimy of a dealer but I could see it happening.

Is there a way to check to see after the fact if it’s actually installed?

 

[I Bleed Ford Blue]

I have an older version of the pro cal device and on mine you need the pro-cal software installed on a laptop and then plug the device into the laptop and the vehicle and you could then see if the tune was actually installed.

 

[Blown F-150]

Sorry @Blown F-150- Looks like you have been added to the "ignore" list as well!

Bahahaha, can’t say I’m surprised. That echo chamber must be getting smaller for him


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[18Ventura]

Is there a way to check to see after the fact if it’s actually installed?

Yes. You can see the FP tune on the ProCal tool, which should be kept with the vehicle.

However, if the ProCal software resides on the installer's computer (rather than your own) I don't know that you would be able to check for firmware updates, etc.

 

[st8]

Yes. You can see the FP tune on the ProCal tool, which should be kept with the vehicle.

However, if the ProCal software resides on the installer's computer (rather than your own) I don't know that you would be able to check for firmware updates, etc.

Oh okay thanks. As long as there is a way to officially check. I mean it’s sad that I even consider that being an issue but anyway.

Can’t you install the software after the fact? I mean what happens once that warranty is up. I’d want everything in my possession certainly by then. I mean I think everything should even from the beginning. I just need the dealer to hit “install” to get the warranty.