Steeda Or ZFGR Tuning.

[C_L213]

Has anyone ever used either one. What's your guys opinion?

 

[2020FordRaptor]

Has anyone ever used either one. What's your guys opinion?

ZFG, TunePlus or Livernois are all so much better tuners then the Steeda will ever be.

 

[DANIMAL402]

ZFG vote here if you want to be satisfied with your results!

 

[Gadgtfreek]

Tuning forum has a lot if info in it.

 

[rams1919]

Had a Steeda Tune for my Mustang GT. It was a vast improvement over stock but I wouldnt say it was to the level of some of the other tuners (Especially those who review logs, work with you through revisions, and dial in your tune). My ST has had tunes from Unleashed, Livernois, and now ZFG. All were noticeable improvements over stock but I have stayed with the ZFG tune as my ST seems to respond the best to it. Its a 93 tune but I usually run ~E20

 

[TntSeries]

ZFG, Goose, Livernois

 

[C_L213]

Thank you all for your input. My next question is will the warranty be voided if I install the tuner?

 

[Cruising68]

Thank you all for your input. My next question is will the warranty be voided if I install the tuner?

Yes but it doesn’t mean warranty lock. Some dealers are mod friendly some are not. However, if you blow your motor I’m sure Ford will check the tune before giving you a motor.


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[2020FordRaptor]

Thank you all for your input. My next question is will the warranty be voided if I install the tuner?

That’s a really loaded question, not as simple as saying directly no or yes:

http://explorerstenthusiasts.com/20...odding-your-explorer-st-heres-where-to-start/

 

[SugarMouth]

Thank you all for your input. My next question is will the warranty be voided if I install the tuner?

It can give them a reason to not cover quite a few repairs. If your mirror motor goes out you are still good.

 

[Gadgtfreek]

Exactly. From what I understand, the counter only tracks ignition cycles since the last ECU update. I tuned the truck about 1–2 months after purchasing it, so naturally the ignition cycle count will be high. I also assume that if Ford pushes an ECU update, it would reset that counter — so if that happens, you’d want to retune immediately afterward.


That said, can they still tell? I honestly don’t know for sure.


It’s also why, beyond the tune and exhaust, I probably won’t go much further. The more parts you add, the more attention you invite. If you roll in with aggressive springs, tuning stickers, exhaust, and a CAI, it’s probably going to raise eyebrows — especially if you’re dealing with a 10R60 issue.


I still stand by this: if you can’t afford to replace the 10R60 out of pocket, don’t tune it. I’m less concerned about the 3.0 itself. After running the ZFG tune, if you drive it in Normal mode and just enjoy the added power responsibly, and something fails, it likely was going to fail anyway. But repeated hard launches in Sport mode? I’m not sure how long the 10R60 would tolerate that — and I don’t plan on finding out.

 

[ZFGracing]

ZFGR but I'm a little bias!

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[Combatvet]

I still stand by this: if you can’t afford to replace the 10R60 out of pocket, don’t tune it. I’m less concerned about the 3.0 itself. After running the ZFG tune, if you drive it in Normal mode and just enjoy the added power responsibly, and something fails, it likely was going to fail anyway. But repeated hard launches in Sport mode? I’m not sure how long the 10R60 would tolerate that — and I don’t plan on finding out.

I too worry about the neck breaking 1-2 shift, it makes me nervous especially with a Ford transmission.

 

[ZFGracing]

I too worry about the neck breaking 1-2 shift, it makes me nervous especially with a Ford transmission.

Ask me to soften it up then if you don't like it.



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[ZFGracing]

Exactly. From what I understand, the counter only tracks ignition cycles since the last ECU update. I tuned the truck about 1–2 months after purchasing it, so naturally the ignition cycle count will be high. I also assume that if Ford pushes an ECU update, it would reset that counter — so if that happens, you’d want to retune immediately afterward.


That said, can they still tell? I honestly don’t know for sure.


It’s also why, beyond the tune and exhaust, I probably won’t go much further. The more parts you add, the more attention you invite. If you roll in with aggressive springs, tuning stickers, exhaust, and a CAI, it’s probably going to raise eyebrows — especially if you’re dealing with a 10R60 issue.


I still stand by this: if you can’t afford to replace the 10R60 out of pocket, don’t tune it. I’m less concerned about the 3.0 itself. After running the ZFG tune, if you drive it in Normal mode and just enjoy the added power responsibly, and something fails, it likely was going to fail anyway. But repeated hard launches in Sport mode? I’m not sure how long the 10R60 would tolerate that — and I don’t plan on finding out.

Depends on the power level and how you take care of it. The quicker faster harder shifting in sport Motors actually way better for the transmission long-term than the softer mushier shifting in normal mode. Remember the softer the shift, the more time you are spending slipping the clutches in between gears. 10r60s don't typically break hard parts even using the trans brake, what's going to fail when it fails are the clutches and they're going to be burnt out from slipping. And if it doesn't fail the clutches but they're still slipping it's going to create a bunch of debris that's going to plug up the valve body, either way it's still related to clutches slipping.

Now is launching it hard on it yeah absolutely that's why you have to take care of it make sure you're mindful for how long you're sitting on the foot break how many passes you do in a row etc.

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