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Front Brake Pad Removal.

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Hello gents. New owner of a 2023 model. I need to remove and check my pads and rotors, on the front. It appears that i have the pads with the adhesive pad on the back. How do you pry the pad away from the caliper to remove them? If anyone has some pointers I would appreciate it. I have never seen this type of pad ever. Any advice greatly appreciated. Thanks!
 

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Read everything you can find on Brake Service Mode and the issues people have with front brakes. Be prepared with Forscan at a minimum.
 

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Adhesive pad on the back??? you mean the anti-rattle pad that is a part of the pad assembly. That is completely irrelevant to removing the pads. Also, you don't need to remove the pads and rotors to simply check them. Just pull the rims and look at them.

The calipers come off pretty much just like any other. You remove the (2) caliper bolts holding it to the caliper mounting bracket and you pry the caliper back away from the bracket. One of the very first things I do to a new vehicles is pull the rims, calipers, caliper brackets and the rotors off and apply anti-seize to all bolts and mating surfaces (obviously not to the outside rotor & brake surface). This exercise of mine was no different on my 22' ST or my 25' ST.

**I can't completely remember now but I think the caliper had to be removed by prying back the top and then lifting (or prying) it upward and out on an upward angle. I keep thinking it somewhat locks in-place with the caliper bracket at the bottom. Anyway, its not rocket science and you sure as hell don't need Forscan for it.
 

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Adhesive pad on the back??? you mean the anti-rattle pad that is a part of the pad assembly. That is completely irrelevant to removing the pads. Also, you don't need to remove the pads and rotors to simply check them. Just pull the rims and look at them.

The calipers come off pretty much just like any other. You remove the (2) caliper bolts holding it to the caliper mounting bracket and you pry the caliper back away from the bracket. One of the very first things I do to a new vehicles is pull the rims, calipers, caliper brackets and the rotors off and apply anti-seize to all bolts and mating surfaces (obviously not to the outside rotor & brake surface). This exercise of mine was no different on my 22' ST or my 25' ST.

**I can't completely remember now but I think the caliper had to be removed by prying back the top and then lifting (or prying) it upward and out on an upward angle. I keep thinking it somewhat locks in-place with the caliper bracket at the bottom. Anyway, its not rocket science and you sure as hell don't need Forscan for it.
There are applications where the pads have adhesive on the back.

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Hello gents. New owner of a 2023 model. I need to remove and check my pads and rotors, on the front. It appears that i have the pads with the adhesive pad on the back. How do you pry the pad away from the caliper to remove them? If anyone has some pointers I would appreciate it. I have never seen this type of pad ever. Any advice greatly appreciated. Thanks!
See my post above. If you remove the pads from the caliper you're going to need to replace them regardless. Just inspect them through the top of the caliper.
 

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Adhesive pad on the back??? you mean the anti-rattle pad that is a part of the pad assembly. That is completely irrelevant to removing the pads. Also, you don't need to remove the pads and rotors to simply check them. Just pull the rims and look at them.

The calipers come off pretty much just like any other. You remove the (2) caliper bolts holding it to the caliper mounting bracket and you pry the caliper back away from the bracket. One of the very first things I do to a new vehicles is pull the rims, calipers, caliper brackets and the rotors off and apply anti-seize to all bolts and mating surfaces (obviously not to the outside rotor & brake surface). This exercise of mine was no different on my 22' ST or my 25' ST.

**I can't completely remember now but I think the caliper had to be removed by prying back the top and then lifting (or prying) it upward and out on an upward angle. I keep thinking it somewhat locks in-place with the caliper bracket at the bottom. Anyway, its not rocket science and you sure as hell don't need Forscan for it.
If you change pads and push fluid back through the MC you absolutely need it in Service Mode…and a lot of people are having issues with it not coming out of service mode…which makes Forscan a handy thing to have available to get it out of Service Mode.
Actually changing parts and moving fluid is a little different than popping off a caliper and a few bolts for anti-seize. I never said you have to have Forscan…I said to have to ready to bail yourself out of it get hung up in BSM. Pay attention.
 

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If you change pads and push fluid back through the MC you absolutely need it in Service Mode…and a lot of people are having issues with it not coming out of service mode…which makes Forscan a handy thing to have available to get it out of Service Mode.
Actually changing parts and moving fluid is a little different than popping off a caliper and a few bolts for anti-seize. I never said you have to have Forscan…I said to have to ready to bail yourself out of it get hung up in BSM. Pay attention.
Unhook the battery first?
 

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Unhook the battery first?
People have still had issues. No matter what you want to “thumbs down” and say you sure as hell don’t need…it’s actually pretty fucking smart to have it on standby. My car has been hung in BSM twice now…I won’t touch the brakes without a laptop on hand. This ain’t your ‘78 Chevy.
 

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People have still had issues. No matter what you want to “thumbs down” and say you sure as hell don’t need…it’s actually pretty fucking smart to have it on standby. My car has been hung in BSM twice now…I won’t touch the brakes without a laptop on hand. This ain’t your ‘78 Chevy.
While it does say to do so in the manual, most of what I've read on here says it's not necessary for just the front brakes. Is this a new issue?
 

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While it does say to do so in the manual, most of what I've read on here says it's not necessary for just the front brakes. Is this a new issue?
No…it’s people, myself included, finally figuring out what’s causing the car to freak out when we thought the front brakes didn’t matter. There’s multiple posts a week about this in the FB groups.
 

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