FENFABrication 2020+ Ford Explorer ST OEM Charge Pipe

[BuckStrickland]

So did you install an intercooler as well, or was the issue that the Inlet on the Intercooler changed for 25/26. I'm sure you're capable and know what you're doing, but you're the first I've heard with any issues from Fenfab, basically ever. I know that I had recently ordered a CVF intercooler, and due to the wait times for their new "redesign" for the 25-26, they just sent me a 20-24 Intercooler and Hot/Cold pipes so I could stop waiting.

 

[DSGR]

I spoke to the guy that’s probably installed more of FenFab cold side pipes on 25-26 cars, which are identical, than anyone else. All you need is the pipe and his adapter. There have been no fitment issues with the right two parts in hand.

Got a pic of the adapter? Seriously, mine would not fit no matter what! If it's the adapter issue, then Brett should've mentioned it in my first email to him regarding the issue. Nevertheless, there were a couple of other small characteristics that I didn't exactly prefer. I purchased another brand that works perfectly and I had zero headaches. It's all good and I appreciate your thoughts.

 

[DSGR]

So did you install an intercooler as well, or was the issue that the Inlet on the Intercooler changed for 25/26. I'm sure you're capable and know what you're doing, but you're the first I've heard with any issues from Fenfab, basically ever. I know that I had recently ordered a CVF intercooler, and due to the wait times for their new "redesign" for the 25-26, they just sent me a 20-24 Intercooler and Hot/Cold pipes so I could stop waiting.

Hi Buck! I didn't install an intercooler; only the Fenfab pipe. No matter what I did, it simply would not fit. It was about an 1" to 1.5" too long. The adapter would've made no difference. The first car I restored into a restomod was a 1957 Chevrolet 210. That was just the beginning! I also have a 2016 Challenger R/T Scat Pack with some SRT goodies. It's a show car mostly, but I'll "exercise" it, too! Thank you for your thoughts. I purchased another brand that's working perfectly. I know it doesn't add any horsepower as some have mentioned, but I'm sure the airflow is smoother. As a side thought, the air tube and the airbox design on the 2003 Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor was changed in the 2004 year model Given there was some "alleged" slight OE Ford tuning during production, the 2004 was then rated at 250 horsepower, up from the 239 horsepower in 2003. Ironically, the 2004 airbox and air tube (called the "Zip tube" at the time) was a perfect direct fit on the 2003 year model.

 

[DSGR]

Forced induction cars won’t ever notice that flattened pipe. The cross section inside is about equal to the smaller, round end. This was discussed heavily early on. I even cut one apart and measured it. The cold side pipe is a zero HP part.

Are you using the OE charge pipe? I would like to read the discussion if you wouldn't mind letting me know where it is. For something that "is a zero HP part," there's a lot of them sold. The only turbocharged car I've ever owned was a 1979 turbocharged Trans Am with the WS6 performance package. This Explorer ST is the second one.

 

[UNBROKEN]

Are you using the OE charge pipe? I would like to read the discussion if you wouldn't mind letting me know where it is. For something that "is a zero HP part," there's a lot of them sold. The only turbocharged car I've ever owned was a 1979 turbocharged Trans Am with the WS6 performance package. This Explorer ST is the second one.

A lot of them are sold because 99% of them use the BOV flange option to add a BOV.

 

[DSGR]

A lot of them are sold because 99% of them use the BOV flange option to add a BOV.

Gotcha' Thank you for all of your advice and patience with my ignorance of the workings of the turbo system in the ST...you're the man!!

 

[DSGR]

Not the same but I just installed a cv fabrication charge pipe with the fenfab adapter on my 2026 tonight. Its on there but I dont like how it all fits together. The adapter seems huge on the intercooler connection and the pipe can't sit perfect like I prefer. It connected fine to the throttle body. Cv fabrication forgot to include another plug for their vacuum manifold mess they created. So had to run to the store when I heard it sucking all kinds of air. Think I'm going to ditch their over complicated vacuum setup for my own vacuum line and a T fitting.

Purchased the cv fabrication kit only to realize it doesn't work with the 25+ even though they sell/list it as fitting on 25+. After I bought it they said I need to change intercooler. Meh... found the fenfab adapter but not a huge fan how it fits.

There are several companies that claim their parts fit will fit a 2025+, when in fact, they do not. In my case, I've requested photos of their part installed in a 2026 ST, especially at the throttle body connector end, and I have yet to even receive a reply. His "business" is not registered with the BBB, so I've submitted a request to the BBB to have him added so that other consumers will have recourse if needed and have rated business transactions available. He seems to think that he's infallible. I spoke with someone else and he seems to believe the pipe I received was too long as well. So, in the meantime, I'll file with the Michigan Consumer Protection Office. Another business agreed to send me their pipe and try it out to see if it would fit. They said if it wouldn't work, they would give me a refund, pay for the return, and would not charge me a restocking fee. It wouldn't fit as needed at the intercooler outlet and they did exactly as they promised. That's what I call excellent customer service! That fee is no more than a way to punish the consumer for the return regardless of the reason. At least the business will make a little money on the return. All the business will say is "too bad," read the return policy or in other words, "KMA."

 

[BuckStrickland]

There are several companies that claim their parts fit will fit a 2025+, when in fact, they do not. In my case, I've requested photos of their part installed in a 2026 ST, especially at the throttle body connector end, and I have yet to even receive a reply. His "business" is not registered with the BBB, so I've submitted a request to the BBB to have him added so that other consumers will have recourse if needed and have rated business transactions available. He seems to think that he's infallible. I spoke with someone else and he seems to believe the pipe I received was too long as well. So, in the meantime, I'll file with the Michigan Consumer Protection Office. Another business agreed to send me their pipe and try it out to see if it would fit. They said if it wouldn't work, they would give me a refund, pay for the return, and would not charge me a restocking fee. It wouldn't fit as needed at the intercooler outlet and they did exactly as they promised. That's what I call excellent customer service! That fee is no more than a way to punish the consumer for the return regardless of the reason. At least the business will make a little money on the return. All the business will say is "too bad," read the return policy or in other words, "KMA."

If it makes you feel better, great, but you're not going to ruin Brett @ FenFab's reputation because a pipe didn't fit and his replies aren't fast enough for you.

 

[UNBROKEN]

There are exactly zero changes between the 2025 and 2026 cars. There are tons of people with Brett’s cold side pipe on both years of cars using his adapter. There’s even more, myself included using it on 2020-2024 cars.
I honestly don’t think the issue is with the pipe.