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Confused about Zen integration module

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So… I have the power and ground wire run and for today I tasked myself with getting all the speaker wires run to locations. Third row is out, and then I saw that I can get to amp easily so thought to just 'bundle' putting the zen unit in today. This thing is not as plug-and-play as I thought it was going to be. I've already called navtv and was told that I need to power and ground the unit from the same place the amps are being powered and grounded from (even if I'm only using the optical output). But at this point I can't even figure out where the plugs are supposed to go and was hoping the experience from this forum could help me out.

In the amp (dsp?) image I'm assuming the yellow-green unit is the amp, is the magenta unit next to it the dsp?
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In addition to that… none of the plugs appear to be the type that provides source to the zen unit (blue plug). zen.jpg

The way I'm understanding the harness… I've got a plug that goes into the zen that provides constant, ignition and ground with an additional constant (red/silver)? I really thought the other plug (where?) was going to plug into the amp unit.
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If anyone can help point me in the right direction I'd be SOOO grateful. 2025 ST w/B&O.
 

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Okay… didn't realize what I was looking at was not the amp, it's BEHIND the subwoofer.
 

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Okay… didn't realize what I was looking at was not the amp, it's BEHIND the subwoofer.
Before changing anything, I’d want to see what the data is actually doing.

A lot of issues people run into end up being related to inconsistent logs, missing channels, or even voltage or setup conditions rather than the actual tune.

If you’re not already logging everything consistently, it can make things look off when they really aren’t.

Getting a clean, repeatable pull with AFR/Lambda, knock activity, and load together usually makes it a lot easier to figure out what’s actually going on.
 

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Are you connecting the Zen power 9 (f25) for 2025 and newer? I have been interested in those and wondered what your results are and what replacement speakers you went with. here is the pinout for it.ZEN-F25_v2.0.pdf
 

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@TNExplorer ST yeah, I have a 25 and used the f25. Once I got my bearings, integration was stupid easy (the files are IN the computer). I replaced speakers with Morel Carbon Elates. Had them from previous vehicle and I like the sound. I'm now looking to move from the carbon 12" that takes up cargo area to a JL 13tw5 and hide it in the free airspace that removing the factory sub created.

My current experience is apparently the class D nature of the amps I'm using (JL Audio VXI) are creating blocking rf interference that causes TPMS sensors to 'fail' and blocks key fob while system is active.
 



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