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HAHAHA 4550 my bad reversed those numbers. lmao!

I mean my last car was a 2.7L Fusion and people run 12's all day with just a tune and it weighed 5450 with me in it. Just adding.

Sweet. This thread can be closed, I appreciate your expertise! TLDR; 3rd best mod - upgraded turbos.

This is very good information. I remember watching a video of PBD saying the turbos were only around 30% duty cycle on their tune. I guess he misspoke. Ok so fair to say, after intercooler and e50 tune the only way to pump more power is bigger turbos? Obviously if you go turbos it's a no...

Ok so the turbos are maxed out on e50?

Ok so best mod after intercooler and an e50 tune?

I'm confused. Mod 1. Intercooler Mod 2. e50 tune Mod 3. e50 tune?

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With my last thread, https://www.explorerst.org/threads/downpipes-upgrade-worth-it.2241/ , I think the general consensus was that downpipes were probably slightly more expensive and difficult to install for what they provide in terms of gains. So I open the floor to opinions/experience as to...

Haha, I hear that, I did my 2.7L on the floor in my garage the first time around, then when I upgraded my turbos I had a shop do the work, no way was I stressing like that again. Ok so expensive, difficult, possibly not the bottleneck we need to address as a 3rd modification? Is that the...

So it's safe to say if I went tune/intercooler and then added let's say meth or upgraded fuel system, my gains would be limited by the bottleneck of the downpipes? The stock cats are the culprit? Again I only ask and am being as thorough as I am is because of my last car, the cost and...

So was the .1-.2 from the cat back or from the downpipes? Are our downpipes a restriction? If they are at what horsepower figure do they become a bottleneck? Maybe that's a better way to word it. Thanks.

Thank you ZFG, that was informative. Does your reply here indicate you're back to tuning? I checked your website yesterday and there was a waitlist. While you're here, maybe you could chime in on the topic at hand? Are downpipe upgrades a necessary modification? Are they a bottleneck after...

I got xdi to make me injectors for my fusion as a one off and they ended up making them after that. Granted that was a 2.7l not a 3.0l but I'm sure they can handle it. Wouldn't hurt to ask them since they made the pump.

Thank you all for this info. Emissions aside it is good to know there's such little difference between catted and catless. So with the small gains we've talked about how's the install time and difficulty? Anyone tackle this in the driveway or is this a lift only install?

I was in the high 11's with my last car so I'd be happy to land there with this car. It does sound like it will take a bit more than just an intercooler and a tune, hence the purpose of this thread. If intercooler, and e50 tune would do it, I'd be happy to stop there then. Mixing fuel does...

How would a tuner know or why would they care? The tune doesn't do anything to change emissions, if you run catless you manipulate the O2 sensor physically to bypass them. I don't see how it would involve anyone else, could you elaborate? The difference between a pipe with nothing in it and a...

Did you go with catted or catless and why? Thanks!

Did you happen to ever get a baseline stock 1/4 mile?