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What information is he using? This is awesome...

It’s a shady practice no matter how you sugar coat it. what’s your goal here anyway?

How so? If your vendor is selling below Magnaflows map pricing they are breaking their vendor agreement. Yes, it saved you a few bucks but if you want to talk about ethics maybe look to your vendors business practices as well. At this point you just sound like a petulant child that didn’t get...

You found a Magnaflow kit for less than MAP. Good for you. At MAP pricing the Thermal kit is cheaper.

So they’re selling below MAP.

Actually are you high? They are most definitely NOT all true cat-back systems. Borla and Corsa are mid-pipe back systems retaining the oem 2.25” mid-pipes. Magnaflow and Thermal are true cat-back systems that replace the oem mid-pipes with 2.5” piping....and it’s optional on the Thermal system...

The Magnaflow with black tips is currently listed at $1680 on Lethal. The Corsa with black tips is $1599. My MAP pricing on Magnaflow is $1679.99. Anyone selling under MAP won’t be selling their stuff for long.

I'm in a business where I rely on supplier pricing to provide info to clients. Sometimes that pricing changes and I have to modify my estimates. It happens and we deal with it and move on. Buy it or don’t, I don’t have a dog in this hunt and don’t care either way. Just giving some insight on how...

I get that but Ron is also at the mercy of Thermal R&D. I’m sure he was working with the information he had at the time. I’m not gonna beat him up for it...business is what it is and he can’t lose money on them.

I’d say it’s comparable with Magnaflow on price and those 2 are the only kits offering bigger piping all the way to the downpipes. Corsa is 2.5” but retains the oem 2.25” midpipes and Borla is 2.25” piping. If you compare what you get with the others...it’s in line.

It would be wise to do so. My ST, with all the supporting mods has been 12.12 in the 1/4 and 3.94 to 60 on his 93 tune. Don’t expect those numbers without other mods but expect it to be a real good time.

Stinger Roadkill Expert CLD everywhere. Dynamat Dynaliner CCF in the doors. Dynamat Dynapad CCF/MLV sandwich in the rear hatch and floor/spare tire well.

I just got my Vibrant mufflers in today...first time I’ve ever held this model. My first thought is even though it’s a bit smaller my gut says it’ll be quieter. The Magnaflows I have out back have a single pipe to a Y at the rear of the muffler where the Vibrant splits immediately with 2 pipes...

People believe strange things sometimes. ‍

With a +30 offset yes the 305/40 will clear. It may slightly rub with a +35 or higher. 305/35 will clear with +35.

The way Vibrant does their packing they claim they don’t burn in and have the sound change. Magnaflow definitely changes over the first 1000 miles or so. Mine got deeper and maybe a touch louder. GESI makes your cats...I wouldn’t expect to notice any difference at all between a 300 and 400 cell...

Lots of us in the 3’s to 60. As far as 3 flat...that’s dependent on a persons budget.

They’re actually about 3” longer. They’re the 12298’s. I like the way Vibrant packs their mufflers so I just wanna try them to compare. If they’re louder or drone I’ll swap the Magnaflows back in.

Depends on the cell count in the converters you used. SPD uses a larger diameter 400 cell cat. If you used something like a 200 cell from GESI it may be a hair louder but I wouldn’t think too much. For the deadener I did full coverage CLD on the floor, tire well and hatch with Dynapad CCF/MLV in...

We’re virtually identical aside from your second x. SPD downpipes, Vibrant 1794 resonators, Magnaflow 12599 mid muffler and after I swap we’ll have the same Vibrant 1136’s...all 3” mandrel bent stainless. Mine sounds fantastic...I have no doubt yours will too. Very deep at idle and not loud at...