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Last week my salesmen said he can’t order 22s yet and that he’d place an order for a 21 which will get converted to a 22 when the order bank fills. so are the 22s identical to 21? Ie same colors and packages? You can’t do a build on the Ford website for a 22 yet.

Not to burst your bubble, but I’ve had a order in for a few weeks and was told by my salesman it MIGHT be delivered in December. they can’t order 21s currently, and 22s aren’t available in the order bank yet. So yeah…. Sucks!

Sweet! Enjoy the new ride!

When did you order? And what model year will you receive?

Make whatever Venn diagram you feel is necessary - the point is no one can provide a single example of a V engine that does not use a balance pipe of some sort. I strongly believe there is must be undebatable benefits to using one - so much so that every auto manufacturer in the world (until...

Likely December. That’s when our current lease is up so hoping that is close.

Not saying I’ve seen every engine setup in the world, but I have yet to see any engine with 2 banks, that didn’t have a merge/crossover/balance/H/Y/X pipe.

I did not say a single thing about “needing back pressure” To answer the original question - dyno charts prove that engines make better power with the banks balanced than do as two separate entities. That’s the whole purpose of an x-pipe. Do some research. :geek: If you want to back up your...

Dude, you’d be wise to put some sort of h/x pipe back in there. Engines don’t prefer to run as 2 separate banks. All engines have a balance pipe on the exhaust for a reason. Granted I’m new to this platform, but believe the resonator is the only cross over on the exhaust system.

According to my salesman, 22 is not orderable yet (makes sense, cannot build a 22 on the Ford site yet). And is no longer able to order a 21. Says he was able to work out a deal with Ford for an extra $1k discount (on top of the current $1k order provision) to get us to wait it out.