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Thanks a hoot, great to be here!

Starting at $6k more, the heavier Aviator is a second slower with the same engine as the ST and has more subtle body lines. Not what I was looking for. I see the ST as the perfect balance of price, performance, styling, interior design and mpg. Towing is a non issue for me. I've owned high...

As annoying as those items might be to you, the option of spending $20k more on an SRT will make them much less noticeable!

Oooh, SRT guys must just love you! Lol

In reality then, the ST shouldn't be compared to either. The RT is sluggish and about the same price. The SRT is notably faster but profoundly more expensive.

It's okay to have one or two additional topics going on in a thread, that's what happens! The Lincoln 3.0 has the same exact hp/torque rating as the Explorer ST (400hp/415hp), so they are identical.

Okay, got 'ya.

Taking into account price alone, all arguments comparing Explorer ST vs. Durango SRT (including the inevitable "bring Explorer ST up to Durango SRT power levels") should be considered moot.

Guess you didn't watch the vid I posted from TwinForce_Fusion. Lol

The problem here is in terminology ... What is "basic" to one man is "complex" to another.

Compared to the 2.7L, the 3.0L revs higher, makes more torque lower, has a cast aluminum block and bigger turbos. TwinForce_Fusion explains it here:

Excellent refutation. Well done!

When I raced Stangs, I modded all of them to one degree or another. But in recent years (maybe it's because I'm getting older) I've become an absolute stickler for keeping my cars bone stock. Soooooo ....how much hp do the ST's make on a tune? Lol

Ditto. Much respect for our Armed Forces. We had a guy in the Department who was a Navy Seal in 'Nam. And a family member just passed away who was a battle veteran of WWII, part of the forces that liberated Germany form the Nazi's.

Hi Ho! I had a KIA Stinger GT in black, the best color in the world but the toughest to keep clean. But you're gonna enjoy every time you wash it. (y):)

As a Firefighter, I'm a big supporter of the Blue. But in the crazy world we're in, I'm thinking there are times when it's ok to be an LEO lookalike ... and there are times when it's not. :unsure:

Ahh, I see. Cinder blocks! I'm also thankful for this forum as well. :cool:

While I wouldn't necessarily call it "bashing', I did find it extremely odd the op would come to an Explorer ST forum to tell us why he didn't get an Explorer ST. :unsure: If he tried that on a Camaro or Mustang forum, he would've been catapulted into outer space. But I suspect a more mature...

I know Chevy publicizes a 500 mile ecu protection for their Vette, but I haven't found anything similar on the Explorer in internet searches or in the owner's manual. Do you have a link to it? Thanks.

Heh zdubyadubya, you mean there's high rpm protection for the first 500 miles? I only have ~150 miles on the car. Oops!