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Ford Performance Tune

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Crisisballer17 said:
True story, my ST is currently in for rear camera blue screen (which the said is a software update, yeah ok! lol), a broken puddle light and an oil change/tire rotation. I specifically told the dealership NOT to perform the computer update recall for the parking brake and it is noted on my work order. We'll see if they listened when I pick it up this afternoon.
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My only concern would be if there's a drive train issue they can just say "Well, you never performed the required update so we're not going to warranty your problems."

schaggatron said:
This aged well. ;)
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The person's statement you quoted is based in reality and common sense, it has nothing to do with "age".:rolleyes:

twin001 said:
... Also, did anyone notice the dyno graph compares "Base tune on 87 oct" vs "Performance tune on 93 oct"? Yeah, double no thanks.

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Yeah, I pointed that out two days ago in post #119.;)

twin001 said:
I can tell you right now that "graph" was created by someone plotting numbers in Excel and was not from a real dyno. 400hp rating is crank HP on a dyno test stand.
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The base hp on that graph is listed at 400 hp with 87 octane, that's the problem. Because Ford advertises they got the 400 hp dyno result on Premium fuel.

Going by the graph then, you get 400 hp with 87 octane and probaly 415-420 hp with premium, so the tune is only worth 10-15 hp. Very confusing ...

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Based on the information that was provided you are better off just filling your tank with 93 octane and saving the $700.
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Yup, that's exactly what it seems like to me. I mean yes, there is some gain in hp/torque. But not a whole lot, right?
 

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PPerrelloJr said:
I have an inquiry at Ford Performance asking if this will work for my 2021 365hp Explorer Platinum. I'll report back as soon as I here from them.
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The official response from Ford Performance - "it will only work on ST vehicles, it's VIN specific, so trying to use it on other editions like the Platinum will not work"
 

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Bummer. You have the number for @ZFGracing tho, right?
 

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PPerrelloJr said:
The official response from Ford Performance - "it will only work on ST vehicles, it's VIN specific, so trying to use it on other editions like the Platinum will not work"
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Just get a custom tune from a reputable vendor. Good news is whatever gains they claim, you can add 35 hp to that. ZFG claims a +50 hp gain on their 93 tune, so you would get +85

https://www.tunedbyzfgracing.com/
 

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I Bleed Ford Blue said:
Just get a custom tune from a reputable vendor. Good news is whatever gains they claim, you can add 35 hp to that. ZFG claims a +50 hp gain on their 93 tune, so you would get +85

https://www.tunedbyzfgracing.com/
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Not necessarily...they probably just did some of the same stuff ZFG dose in there tuning.
 

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It's been talked about, for 8 pages. What else is left to say.
 

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Blaster7Romeo said:
Not necessarily...they probably just did some of the same stuff ZFG dose in there tuning.
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Actually it would. The 20 and 21 platinum and king ranch owners got the same engine as our ST's but detuned down to 365 hp from the factory. So an aftermarket tune would get you back the 35 hp plus what ever their tune gets you.
 

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KegsBdry said:
https://performanceparts.ford.com/part/M-9603-EX30

Ford Performance finally released a tune after years of requests to stay under warranty. And it's 30 HP for $850?! Why are we not talking about this more? What a let down. (n)
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That's because:

#1 FORD is late to the game with their tune
#2 Their tune produces significantly less hp than what 3rd party tuners make
#3 Many people are wondering how FORD can offer a tune with unaddressed rear bolt shears

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It's been talked about, for 8 pages. What else is left to say.
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It's an internet forum. Where people are happy to ramble on for days over literally nothing.:D
 

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schaggatron said:
This aged well. ;)
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It actually did age well. Based on the information Ford provided on THEIR tune it does nothing. The graph shows a "Baseline 87 Octane" vs "FPP Tune 93 Octane"......terrible comparison for a test. Of course it will make more power on 93, it is inherent to the fuel used. Now, the 2nd grade level Excel plot leads to many additional questions regarding the validity of any actual tests. Bottom line is this tune is a joke and there is zero credibility behind the “results” shown.

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twin001 said:
It actually did age well. Based on the information Ford provided on THEIR tune it does nothing. The graph shows a "Baseline 87 Octane" vs "FPP Tune 93 Octane"......terrible comparison for a test. Of course it will make more power on 93, it is inherent to the fuel used. Now, the 2nd grade level Excel plot leads to many additional questions regarding the validity of any actual tests. Bottom line is this tune is a joke.
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I share your concerns.

How can they make a "Stock vs Tuned" comparison when the stock number used 87 octane and their tuned result used Premium?
How did they get 400 hp stock on 87 octane when their own advertising stated they made that number using Premium fuel?

Either someone made a mistake on the chart (it should've read "400 hp stock on Premium"), or we're not being told the whole story.

I would've really been interested in their tune were it not for that anomaly. Guess now I'll have to wait for someone to buy it and do back to back dyno testing.
 

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CareerFiremanGuy said:
I share your concerns.

How can they make a "Stock vs Tuned" comparison when the stock number used 87 octane and their tuned result used Premium?
How did they get 400 hp stock on 87 octane when their own advertising stated they made that number using Premium fuel?

Either someone made a mistake on the chart (it should've read "400 hp stock on Premium"), or we're not being told the whole story.

I would've really been interested in their tune were it not for that anomaly. Guess now I'll have to wait for someone to buy it and do back to back dyno testing.
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I think someone made a boo boo on the graph. The Bronco tune compares base on 93 to tuned on 93.
 

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twin001 said:
It actually did age well. Based on the information Ford provided on THEIR tune it does nothing. The graph shows a "Baseline 87 Octane" vs "FPP Tune 93 Octane"......terrible comparison for a test. Of course it will make more power on 93, it is inherent to the fuel used. Now, the 2nd grade level Excel plot leads to many additional questions regarding the validity of any actual tests. Bottom line is this tune is a joke and there is zero credibility behind the “results” shown. View attachment 14557
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We know it doesn’t make the 400hp on 87. It’s a typo. The graph is a joke, however they aren’t going to show whp results, nothing Ford or Ford Performance had shown for any vehicle I’ve looked at shows whp results, so the graph is a stop gap.


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st8 said:
I could see it bringing it up to the bronco raptor. Same engine, putting out more power than the ST.
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And they did just that, in fact even a little better. I honestly don’t know why people are surprised at what ford did with this. Aftermarket will nearly always outpace what oem can do.
 

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Ford put out a tune as they said they would. True to their word. Ford never once said how much HP the tune would have. If you want to keep the warranty no questions asked, then this is the one to go with.
 

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st8 said:
you mean like yourself and the constant bolt discussions? Haha
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You mean like yourself and the never ending tunes threads? Lolol

st8 said:
And they did just that, in fact even a little better. I honestly don’t know why people are surprised at what ford did with this. Aftermarket will nearly always outpace what oem can do.
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^See what I mean? Take a breather and give it a rest already. Rofl
 

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Big Turk said:
I think someone made a boo boo on the graph. The Bronco tune compares base on 93 to tuned on 93.
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Finally, someone with a post that makes sense.(y)
 

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How long till we see another bolt thread regarding Ford's tune made by our favorite guy LOL!
 

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