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Just bought a set of these for my ST - 22/10.5 - 30mm offset got a Black Friday deal saved $100 a wheel IMG_1627.jpeg
 

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Best wheel I've seen yet any chance ya could post a link to them please
 

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Best wheel I've seen yet any chance ya could post a link to them please
Element wheels plug in your vehicle and it should come up with all the KoKo Kuture wheels that fit - parent company is Giovanni
 

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One thing - I ended up buying the Velgen VF9's because Element sales rep told me those wheels @ 22/10.5 - 30mm offset - would rub with 305/40R22 tires so I passed on them because they said they wouldn't take them back if there were rubbing issues ...

Velgen guaranteed no rubbing as long as the Explorer was stock height

So as nice as they are - and they are - I didn't want to throw dice on $2300
 

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One thing - I ended up buying the Velgen VF9's because Element sales rep told me those wheels @ 22/10.5 - 30mm offset - would rub with 305/40R22 tires so I passed on them because they said they wouldn't take them back if there were rubbing issues ...

Velgen guaranteed no rubbing as long as the Explorer was stock height

So as nice as they are - and they are - I didn't want to throw dice on $2300
The specs are what they are. Whoever you talked to an element, just didn’t know what the **** they were talking about. The Velgen wheels you bought are the exact same specs.
 

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The specs are what they are. Whoever you talked to an element, just didn’t know what the **** they were talking about. The Velgen wheels you bought are the exact same specs.
A guy named Raffi Akim or something like that.

What you said - is what I said - and it became apparent to me then that these people are clueless so I made a decision to move on from them as who knows what kind of nonsense I was likely to get wrapped up in with those Dopes …!!!

They seemed like a low class operation "with Midnight sales" I don't need any of that crap
 

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One thing - I ended up buying the Velgen VF9's because Element sales rep told me those wheels @ 22/10.5 - 30mm offset - would rub with 305/40R22 tires so I passed on them because they said they wouldn't take them back if there were rubbing issues ...

Velgen guaranteed no rubbing as long as the Explorer was stock height

So as nice as they are - and they are - I didn't want to throw dice on $2300
So the Velgen 22's will rub on H&R springs?
 

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So the Velgen 22's will rub on H&R springs?
Not according to Velgen ... and quite a few others on the forum here -

So in a nutshell Element wheels did not want to own up to any goof ups in the build specs in case your set up rubbed when you installed it - and therefore did not want to take the wheels back on a return, they just don't want to take any responsibility for anything, they sell you the wheels and then you can go **** yourself...!!! - that's about the way I saw it...

So I bought from Velgen who gave me a written guarantee that they would fit fine.
 

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So the Velgen 22's will rub on H&R springs?
Some, not all 305/40/22’s will rub if you’re on drop springs with a +30 10.5 wheel. No matter what the tire size says, not all tires on a given size are actually the same. Some run wider and will rub. If you’re dropped, 305/35 is where you wanna be.
 

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This is what I'm mounting on a stock height 25 ST and was told they WOULD NOT RUB - so time will tell when I mount everything I will report back here - stay tuned to your favorite channel

Tire detail of Michelin - Pilot Sport All Season 4
Tire Size: 305/40R22/XLSpeed Rating: YLoad Index: 114Feature: Mud plus SnowUTQG: 540 A ARun Flat: NoWarranty: 45k milesSeason: All-Season

Originally fitted on: Land Rover
Michelin - Pilot Sport All Season 4
 

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Yea those will most likely rub, but it’d be minor on just a little bit of the fender liner.
 

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Yea those will most likely rub, but it’d be minor on just a little bit of the fender liner.
Well most state they won’t - also the size difference between 295/40 and 305/40 is 10mm which equates to 0.394 of an inch.

So you would say be safe and get the 295’s correct - except the 295’s are a whopping $125 dollars a tire more
 

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This is what I'm mounting on a stock height 25 ST and was told they WOULD NOT RUB - so time will tell when I mount everything I will report back here - stay tuned to your favorite channel

Tire detail of Michelin - Pilot Sport All Season 4
Tire Size: 305/40R22/XLSpeed Rating: YLoad Index: 114Feature: Mud plus SnowUTQG: 540 A ARun Flat: NoWarranty: 45k milesSeason: All-Season

Originally fitted on: Land Rover
Michelin - Pilot Sport All Season 4
I just got the pilot sports and I was considering upping the width but after some research I went with the stock size. Multiple reputable sources said cramming that wide of a tire onto the stock wheels would cause inconsistent contact patch and wear where the sidewall meets the tread due to the tires muffin topping around the rim.
A lot of ppl on Facebook went the wide route and claim to be fine but they all bought meh tires and probably wouldn’t know if they were losing grip or not. The 275 pilot sport 4s are incredible although I’m not tuned yet so maybe you would lose some grip with extra power but I can’t break them loose
 

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I just got the pilot sports and I was considering upping the width but after some research I went with the stock size. Multiple reputable sources said cramming that wide of a tire onto the stock wheels would cause inconsistent contact patch and wear where the sidewall meets the tread due to the tires muffin topping around the rim.
A lot of ppl on Facebook went the wide route and claim to be fine but they all bought meh tires and probably wouldn’t know if they were losing grip or not. The 275 pilot sport 4s are incredible although I’m not tuned yet so maybe you would lose some grip with extra power but I can’t break them loose
Well (no offense) but apparently you haven’t read the thread - we are not talking stock wheels here - 22 by 10.5 Velgens
 



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