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Auto Stop/Start Sucks. Who's with me??
- Thread starter Tony L
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I find it annoying in all cars that have it.
There's a module you can buy for $99 that will bypass it. See this post https://www.explorerst.org/threads/disable-auto-stop-start-feature.132/
There's a module you can buy for $99 that will bypass it. See this post https://www.explorerst.org/threads/disable-auto-stop-start-feature.132/
Initially, I thought the same as above. I found the feature annoying and thought there was a problem with the car every time the engine shutoff. I also found it annoying that there was no way to permanently disable the feature (except for hitting the button every time you started the vehicle or buying the $99 after market module). For the past couple of days, I decided to try the feature. Once I got used to it, it was not too bad. Again, still wish I had the option to turn it off in the vehicle settings.
Not all stop/start systems are created equal. I found the system in my ST to have two issues.
1) The starting motor is noisy when it starts. It stutters and causes my ST to lurch forward slightly against the brakes when it turns on the vehicle at a red light. The lurch forward can be enough to move your head back slightly while sitting at a red light.
2) There is a delay from the time you touch the gas pedal to the time the vehicle starts rolling. This causes concern if I need to accelerate quickly when making a left turn into oncoming traffic at an intersection.
Comparison: I have rented other brands that all have the start-stop feature and some don't have a shutter or a delay at startup. For example, I rented a Chevy Malibu for a business trip and it was quite on the start, and had no delay on acceleration.
Doing a little research I see that this is a known issue with various brands. So, unfortunately, I think my ST is on the poor side of the Start-Stop execution. https://www.cars.com/articles/which-cars-have-the-best-stop-start-systems-1420684556033/
This is another example to me that my ST is brilliant in the concept, design, and performance (why I bought it). But poor on the execution of the systems and build.
1) The starting motor is noisy when it starts. It stutters and causes my ST to lurch forward slightly against the brakes when it turns on the vehicle at a red light. The lurch forward can be enough to move your head back slightly while sitting at a red light.
2) There is a delay from the time you touch the gas pedal to the time the vehicle starts rolling. This causes concern if I need to accelerate quickly when making a left turn into oncoming traffic at an intersection.
Comparison: I have rented other brands that all have the start-stop feature and some don't have a shutter or a delay at startup. For example, I rented a Chevy Malibu for a business trip and it was quite on the start, and had no delay on acceleration.
Doing a little research I see that this is a known issue with various brands. So, unfortunately, I think my ST is on the poor side of the Start-Stop execution. https://www.cars.com/articles/which-cars-have-the-best-stop-start-systems-1420684556033/
This is another example to me that my ST is brilliant in the concept, design, and performance (why I bought it). But poor on the execution of the systems and build.
I'm an old gear head from back in the day, and when we added a turbo or had a car with one we had all types of devices and methods to protect the turbo. Pre lube, delay stop to avoid cooking the bearings etc. fast forward to today, how does the auto stop-start technology square with killing the oil supply to two turbos on a hot summer day by constantly stopping and starting with no spool down time. Just sayin
And we used to start our cars like ......
(Photo copied from Hemmings.com online article)
Just couldn't resist, it is probably likely that the 2020 automotive technology hasn't improved since... back when...
(Photo copied from Hemmings.com online article)
Just couldn't resist, it is probably likely that the 2020 automotive technology hasn't improved since... back when...
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