• Sign Up! To view all forums and unlock additional cool features

    Welcome to the #1 Explorer ST Forum and Explorer ST community dedicated to Explorer ST owners and enthusiasts. Register for an account, it's free and it's easy, so don't hesitate to join the Explorer ST Forum today!


WARNING recall 22S27 is more than what they are telling us

I Bleed Ford Blue

I Bleed Ford Blue

Active Member
U.S. Navy Veteran
#1
Messages
639
Reactions
422
Points
182
Location
Ohio
Vehicle
23 Rapid Red Explorer ST
#1
I had the recall done last Monday and have been getting used to releasing the parking brake. Today the D/A was kinda low for the temp so I decided to try another run on my favorite mexican road. I just put a fresh tank of E30 in so I thought I could get a decent run. The best I could manage was a 14.16@96mph. I tried three different runs and that was the best I could get. I also noticed the shifting was soft like stock and I could only get to 2200 rpm on the brake stand launch. So not only does the recall reprogram the parking brake, but it puts the ECM/TCM back to stock.
 

D

Dale5403

1000 Post Club
#2
Messages
1,746
Reactions
1,464
Points
262
Location
Mondovi, WI, USA
#2
Have you tried to reload your tune?
 

OP
I Bleed Ford Blue

I Bleed Ford Blue

Active Member
U.S. Navy Veteran
Thread Starter #3
Messages
639
Reactions
422
Points
182
Location
Ohio
Vehicle
23 Rapid Red Explorer ST
Thread Starter #3
Not yet, Just got back from the store and had to put the groceries away. After breakfast I'll try. Stay tuned.
 

C

Cdubya

1000 Post Club
#4
Messages
1,470
Reactions
718
Points
262
Location
NE Ohio
Vehicle
2020 Explorer ST
#4
Any PCM flash will revert to stock. I wonder if the strategy code is the same with just the addition of the parking brake. I also wonder if you just flash your aftermarket tune, does the parking brake addition go away too then? Would you need your tuner to revise the new stock tune to retain the e-brake? At the very least, I would make sure to save the new stock tune.
 

OP
I Bleed Ford Blue

I Bleed Ford Blue

Active Member
U.S. Navy Veteran
Thread Starter #5
Messages
639
Reactions
422
Points
182
Location
Ohio
Vehicle
23 Rapid Red Explorer ST
Thread Starter #5
Good news, the HP software and the ZFG tune was able to overwrite the recall update and I now have my tune back. Earlier today I pulled a 5.79 0-60. After I reloaded the tune I got a 4.34 0-60. Now for the really good news, the parking brake update has disappeared, It operates just like it did before the recall. Ford now thinks the recall has been performed, but It has been reverted to prior recall operation.
 

D

Dale5403

1000 Post Club
#6
Messages
1,746
Reactions
1,464
Points
262
Location
Mondovi, WI, USA
#6
I Bleed Ford Blue said:
Good news, the HP software and the ZFG tune was able to overwrite the recall update and I now have my tune back. Earlier today I pulled a 5.79 0-60. After I reloaded the tune I got a 4.34 0-60. Now for the really good news, the parking brake update has disappeared, It operates just like it did before the recall. Ford now thinks the recall has been performed, but It has been reverted to prior recall operation.
Click to expand...
That will make some people happy. But I wonder what would happen if the bolt would break. Would they deny warranty if they seen the update had been removed? Or if you saved the change before reinstalling your tune can it be redone so that the parking brake get applied when put into park? Just asking is all.
 

B

Bruck

New Member
#7
Messages
9
Reactions
2
Points
2
Location
Vernon, CT, USA
Vehicle
2022 Explorer ST
#7
This parking brake setting is annoying as ****.
 

hbalek

hbalek

Active Member
#8
Messages
859
Reactions
475
Points
182
Location
Kensington, MD, USA
#8
Your parking brake should still auto release like before the recall.
 

OP
I Bleed Ford Blue

I Bleed Ford Blue

Active Member
U.S. Navy Veteran
Thread Starter #9
Messages
639
Reactions
422
Points
182
Location
Ohio
Vehicle
23 Rapid Red Explorer ST
Thread Starter #9
It doesn't auto lock anymore like it did with the recall, so auto release is a moot point.
 

B

Bruck

New Member
#10
Messages
9
Reactions
2
Points
2
Location
Vernon, CT, USA
Vehicle
2022 Explorer ST
#10
It still feels like the brakes are on when you hit the gas! Not good!
 

B

Bruck

New Member
#12
Messages
9
Reactions
2
Points
2
Location
Vernon, CT, USA
Vehicle
2022 Explorer ST
#12
Um tell me more.
 

TriSum

TriSum

New Member
U.S. Marine Veteran
#14
Messages
16
Reactions
8
Points
2
Location
SoCal
#14
I'd be curious if ZFG has looked at the recall update to see if the torque management values have changed over the original "factory" calibration?
 

hbalek

hbalek

Active Member
#15
Messages
859
Reactions
475
Points
182
Location
Kensington, MD, USA
#15
People need to read the manual maybe just once to get the most of their fully equipped vehicle! There are features you don't even know you have unless you look. I absolutely LOVE auto-hold and this is my first vehicle with that. Most everything else I've had on my last couple Lincolns.
 

FORZDA3

FORZDA3

Member
U.S. Air Force Veteran
#16
Messages
399
Reactions
255
Points
37
Location
Gloucester, VA, USA
Vehicle
2021 Explorer ST
#16
hbalek said:
People need to read the manual maybe just once to get the most of their fully equipped vehicle! There are features you don't even know you have unless you look. I absolutely LOVE auto-hold and this is my first vehicle with that. Most everything else I've had on my last couple Lincolns.
Click to expand...
Yeah, you’re really pushing contemporary sanity to require someone to actually “read the fucking manual” (RTFM). Hell, there’s probably sentences with more than 10 words! They will just try to type “too long; didn’t read” (TL;DR)!!!
 

CareerFiremanGuy

CareerFiremanGuy

1000 Post Club
Firefighter/EMT
#17
Messages
1,080
Reactions
790
Points
262
Location
USA
Vehicle
2022 Ford Explorer ST
#17
Dale5403 said:
That will make some people happy. But I wonder what would happen if the bolt would break. Would they deny warranty if they seen the update had been removed? ...
Click to expand...
Exactly my thought. But but he's already tuning his ST so he's not concerned about warranties.

FORZDA3 said:
Yeah, you’re really pushing contemporary sanity to require someone to actually “read the fu$king manual” ...
Click to expand...
bfff1719e19168ec67015068547a023a-2549537714.jpg

Project0.jpg
 

R

Rocketw19

Member
#18
Messages
291
Reactions
144
Points
37
Location
Roseville
Vehicle
2021 Explorer ST
#18
I Bleed Ford Blue said:
I had the recall done last Monday and have been getting used to releasing the parking brake. Today the D/A was kinda low for the temp so I decided to try another run on my favorite mexican road. I just put a fresh tank of E30 in so I thought I could get a decent run. The best I could manage was a 14.16@96mph. I tried three different runs and that was the best I could get. I also noticed the shifting was soft like stock and I could only get to 2200 rpm on the brake stand launch. So not only does the recall reprogram the parking brake, but it puts the ECM/TCM back to stock.
Click to expand...
I have not read replys sorry if repeated but you have to tell them when you drop off do not flash my computer. If the work is computer related then you have to get your tune out and save it so you can reload after.
 

CareerFiremanGuy

CareerFiremanGuy

1000 Post Club
Firefighter/EMT
#19
Messages
1,080
Reactions
790
Points
262
Location
USA
Vehicle
2022 Ford Explorer ST
#19
I Bleed Ford Blue said:
... I also noticed the shifting was soft like stock and I could only get to 2200 rpm on the brake stand launch ...
Click to expand...
Exactly what rpm is the power brake launch with the tune? Asking for my 3 bolt.
 

OP
I Bleed Ford Blue

I Bleed Ford Blue

Active Member
U.S. Navy Veteran
Thread Starter #20
Messages
639
Reactions
422
Points
182
Location
Ohio
Vehicle
23 Rapid Red Explorer ST
Thread Starter #20
The stall speed of your convertor is highly dependent on tq output of the engine. Apparently when stock, the engine only makes enough tq to reach around 2200 rpm. When tuned you can get much higher, but I only go to 2500 rpm as my brakes won't hold much past that (I have the standard brakes).
 

You must log in or register to reply here.

Explorer ST Posts



Top